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Latter Rain threatens our tribulation endurance by attempting to convince us against the preparation of tribulation retreats on self-sufficient properties. Instead of making such preparations, Latter Rainists say that we will be wielding great faith sufficient to call our foods and other physical needs down from Heaven at the moment of need. As the influential Latter Rainist, Rick Joyner, has said:
"...our goal should be to seek the glory of the Lord, not to stash provisions. The glory of the Lord is what will attract the provision of the Lord in these times. In the coming darkness, the glory will stand out more than ever, and even the kings of the earth and the nations will turn to those who have it." ("Y2K AND THE CHURCH" by Rick Joyner)

By Gully!! Not only does Joyner teach that preparations are tantamount to a lack of faith, but he envisions the nations of the world feeding off of us in the tribulation period!!!!!! That is, he teaches that the tribulation period is going to be a party at our house, and that the world is going to be our guest!!!!!!!!!!!

And instead of viewing trib-preparation as those who see trouble ahead and wisely get ready for it...Joyner negatively paints post-tribulationists as stashers if they decide to store foods and other needs. Has he read his Bible, where it talks about the mark of the beast, and how the leading nations...yeah, even God Himself...won't permit us to buy our needs? God is calling us to get out of the nations in the tribulation, to prepare clean spiritual clothing while waiting patiently "behind closed doors" in wilderness locations, come blessing or persecution. And no one here is suggesting that true miracles (i.e. from God) will not be performed in those days, but not for the full-scale conversion of the nations. Consider the miracle-working powers of the Two Witnesses, and yet after 1260 days of it, they merely reap the wrath and mockery of the (unrepentant) nations!

The power of God through faith is available only with a work that God agrees with, of course. When we are moving in God, anything is possible through the tiniest quantity of our faith. But the "name-it-and-claim-it" methodology now being taught in charismatic circles is a building of bigger and bigger faith...and for what? For our own prosperity! This not only attempts to turn God into our personal genie, but it tends to make magicians out of us, especially when demons do in fact get involved posing as the Holy Spirit...fulfilling miracles and prophecies, and manifesting within with electrical/ecstatic experiences.

Why would God allow this to happen to believers? For one, "believers" includes the goats and the wolves...those not found in the Book of Life. And when it happens to the sheep, it's because the sheep have gotten off the True Way by making wrong deductions.

What better way is there for demons to instill their twisted ideas into Christianity but through evangelists endowed with "miraculous" powers? And if Irvingism was one of the first movements in modern times to exhibit such demonic miracles, then the pre-trib' doctrine that Irvingism foisted upon the world was also demonic. Surely, we realize that Satan's strategy in these last days will be to give the Elect no option but to receive the mark, and what better way to make that mark most-attractive than by having us stranded without food and shelter at the very outset of the tribulation?

Kingdom-Now theology is profoundly at odds with Christ himself defeating, and saving us from, end-time wickedness. Take a look at Psalm 18 to see that we, the Elect Body of Christ, are depicted in the throws of death on the last day, due to the great strength of the enemy, and that we are saved from that enemy only as a result of Christ's tempestuous appearance. And then remember what Jesus said: all flesh, including the Elect, would be annihilated at Armageddon if He didn't return at that critical point to cut short this present history (Matthew 24:22). That doesn't sound like the Elect will succeed in setting up a glorious Kingdom (i.e. the Millennium) prior to His return, does it?

Jesus did not say, "When you see the Abomination of Desolation, go in and give him a good lickin' for me." Instead, Jesus tells Israelites to flee Israel, and if any of us worldwide are given to persecution, we are not to fight back and so attempt to take the world over by force, but to be patiently passive until His return:

It was given to it [the Beast] to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation...If anyone is for captivity, to captivity he will go; if anyone kills by the sword, it behoves him to be killed by the sword. Here is the endurance and the faith of the saints" (Revelation 13:7, 10)

A revival is defined as a great coming to faith of many people, the natural extension of which is great love for one another. But if such a thing were planned by God in the end time, why would Jesus confirm the very opposite when he says,

"And at that time many will be offended [by His Name] and will deliver one another and hate one another; and many false prophets will be raised and will cause many to err. Because lawlessness is to be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures [this situation] to the end, this one will be saved" (Matthew 24:9-13).

Where's the revival? It isn't there. Instead, hatred of Christ and for his people, and the false "truth" which will propagate "to the end," is an anti-revival. For this reason it is important to point out to our brothers and sisters around the world that no revival is about to take place from God. A revival that reaches to the ends of the earth may in fact be underway, but it is an ecumenical one being engineered by the United Nations in conjunction with Masons, the Vatican and other religious bodies in what is now being called the "United Religions" (this term is to become official on June 26, 2000). And guess what? Latter Rainists are themselves an ecumenical movement!! Surprise, surprise.

Some Latter Rainists often call the army that they are building, "Joel's Army," believing that the army in the book of Joel, which God calls, "My great army," is the Church! Those who are even the least bit familiar with Joel know that this army refers to one which will invade Israel, which is moreover destroyed, and cannot on those two counts be identified as the Church. But such is the sort of perverted spiritualization that has become the norm for Latter Rain visionaries..."Christian mystics," if you will.

Indeed, "Latter Rain" itself is a term taken from Joel 2:23, where God promises the Israeli remnant the "early rain and the latter rain," but is, of course, talking about literal rainfall to restore Israel's land with literal crops (in the Millennium). The Latter Rainists have re-interpreted the "latter rain" as the following outpouring of the Holy Spirit:

"And it shall be afterward [i.e. after the army is destroyed], I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh. And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions...For salvation shall be in Mount Zion and in Jerusalem..." (Joel 2:28,32).

While "all flesh" refers to the survivors of Armageddon, both Jew and Gentile, and not to the raptured Church, obviously, the Latter Rainists would have you believe that the outpouring of the Spirit and gifts is intended strictly for Church saints, in their flesh bodies in the here and now i.e. apart from a rapture.

You will often hear that Matthew 24:14 refers to this huge revival. This text, however, does not indicate a revival at all, but merely a preaching of the Gospel to all nations. There is nothing in the statement that would suggest the gospel is accepted far and wide while it is preached. To the contrary, the opposite appears to be true since Jesus says its purpose is to be "a testimony to all the nations," as in God justifying an abrupt end to the world with a Last Call. That is, while God wants the goats and wolves condemned, He cannot bring the end of the world unless he first warns them, lest Satan accuse Him of underhandedness. But we know from other scriptures that the world will NOT accept the warnings/signs.

Of course, because it will be fruitless to preach the gospel to peoples after the mark of the beast has been received by them, I understand that the timing of this "last-minute" preaching of the Word is before the great tribulation. For what justice is there if the preaching is done after the peoples receive the mark? God would not be so unjust. And there is no reason to predict a special future event to fulfill Matthew 24:14 because what we see today in common missionary efforts could very well be the fulfillment of the text.

And, yes, some will see the Light and be saved through the spread of the gospel at this time, but not to the point of a global revival. For, concurrent with the preaching of the gospel, and because of the preaching of the gospel, the nations will hate the name of Christ and persecute those who uphold it (v. 9). This does not spell "revival," but it does spell "persecution," and those who are expecting revival because they entrust themselves to Latter-Rain dictates will find themselves badly prepared for the persecution.

Jesus did say that others would do greater works than he; it's no surprise that the false-miracles workers, also predicted to appear, would use that statement to support their works. God has likely permitted Satan significant control over the "evidences" of Latter Rainists for the good, that the Elect might see the strange works and thereby know with certainty that the revival is not from Him. When Christians start laughing in church with what is called "holy laughter," when there is nothing to laugh about, and where it is a corporate exercise deemed "worship," we know God is not in it. Consider this song written by a woman who supports laughing "like an idiot":

Kathryn Riss' Drinking Song

If you feel too serious and kind of blue,
I've got a suggestion, just the thing for you!
It's a little unconventional, but so much fun,
That you won't even mind when people think you're dumb!

Just come to the party God is throwing right now,
We can all lighten up and show the pagans how
Christians have more fun and keep everyone guessing,
Since the Holy Ghost sent us the Toronto blessing!

I used to think life was serious stuff;
I didn't dare cry, so I acted kind of tough
'Til the Spirit of God put laughter in my soul,
Now the Holy Ghost's got me, and I'm out of control!


Now I'm just a party animal grazing at God's trough,
I'm a Jesus junkie, and I can't get enough!
I'm an alcoholic for that great New Wine,
'Cause the Holy Ghost is pouring, and I'm drinking all the time!

Now I laugh like an idiot and bark like a dog,
If I don't sober up, I'll likely hop like a frog!
And I'll crow like a rooster 'til the break of day,
'Cause the Holy Ghost is moving, and I can't stay away!

Now I roar like a lioness who's on the prowl,
I laugh and I shake, maybe hoot like an owl!
Since God's holy river started bubbling up in me,
It spills outside, and it's setting me free!

So, I'll crunch and I'll dip and I'll dance round and round,
'Cause the pew was fine, but it's more fun on the ground!
So I'll jump like a pogo stick, then fall on the floor,
'Cause the Holy Ghost is moving, and I just want MORE

Now, take a look at the next testimony, and realize that something very Satanic must be happening to Christians, something which may indeed be a spiritual experience, yes, but one which mocks God:

"Anyway..... Robert Hopkins was preaching...... and then suddenly and without warning, the Holy Spirit fell, and when I say the Holy Spirit fell, well I've NEVER been under such an anointing in my whole entire life - not at the RHB meetings, nor at Catch the Fire, nor at the On Fire conferences, nor at any other meetings I've even been to that is in the TESTIMONIES section of my TB web site!!! I mean.... the whole place just ERUPTED..... oh so hard to describe here!!!! Oh let me try to tell you what happened to me personally...... I had my arms raised up, and suddenly my arms shook like crazy, and they shook so much that it was a wonder that they didn't fall off!!!! And then my whole body shook like crazy, as if bolts after bolts after bolts after bolts of electricity went through me!!!! Oh I said this before about other meetings I've been to, but this time was several more magnitudes more intense!!! I never felt so out of control in my whole entire life since Renewal started here. And holy laughter came upon me, and I never laughed so much in my whole entire life, not even at the RHB meetings I've been to, oh I laughed, and I laughed, and I laughed, my whole belly felt like it was about to burst open. And I felt electricity - real electricity pins & needles in my hands and my arms - and my head grew light and giddy but I was not concerned about that, if you know what I mean, and at times I howled and I roared and I barked, and all these things happening not just once but over and over and over again as each bolt of electricity went through my mortal body, the force of the anointing almost lifting me out of my seat!!!!

Thank God that the video below was obtained, so you can see for yourself what sort of churches are cropping up in Charismata Land:

Try to imagine yourself in the pews at the following service led by Randy Clark:

"The atmosphere is quiet, very low key. 'Come Holy Spirit,' Randy says. Silence. Everyone is still. Then suddenly, "ka-wham, blam!!" Somebody in the rear hits the floor, impacting a chair on the way down. No one is moving. No one is touching anyone. "ka-wham, blam!!" Down goes another one, this time in the middle of the group."ka-wham, ka-wham!" More fall. A man flies off the first row, spins violently as he appears to be launched into the air. He hits the back of a piano about 10 feet away from where he was standing, and drops to the floor. He lays there, screaming. Men and women begin to cry. Some begin to shake. More people appear to fly through the air as they are "ejected" across the floor. Now there is wholesale crying, shaking, jumping. Randy asks those whom God is touching to come down front. As he begins to pray for them specifically, it becomes a catcher's nightmare. The anointing is so strong, everyone Randy touches either instantaneously crumbles into a ball, falls forward onto Randy, jumps sideways, or falls into a heap, at lightning speed. So we get two catchers. One stands behind, one in front. I place my hand in between Randy and a man he's praying for. I don't want any more people falling on him. The anointing is so strong, it's like placing my hand into an electrical transformer.

If the piece above had been written by someone opposed to the movement, we could perhaps disregard it as hearsay, but it was written by one who supports it, and has been made public on a site which also supports it (at

The man with the power-touch, Randy Clark, is the pastor a Vineyard church in St. Louis Missouri. He is credited with bringing "holy laughter" to Toronto after picking it up at Kenneth Hagen's Bible College in Tulsa, where Rodney Howard-Brown, the father of the holy-laughter movement, was speaking. John Arnott, Pastor of the Toronto Airport Vineyard, invited Randy to speak at his church, thus introducing to Toronto the laughter and associated manifestations which now are spreading worldwide in an effort to gird Latter-Rain globalism.

Howard-Browne is the sort of loud-mouth fool that even Satan would like to drop from his team. He said:

"I'd rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything...and if the devil manifests, don't worry about that, either. Rejoice, because at least something is happening" (The Coming Revival. 1991, p.6).

Someone tell Howard-Browne that the devil doesn't want anyone to know that these manifestations are from demons. While the goats and wolves in sheep's clothing will be "partying," the Elect sheep at these gatherings are usually not participating and have a dumbfounded look on their faces. The sheep are the very ones whom the Latter Rainists would consider "unspiritual," therefore. The above quote, and the four to follow from two pastors at the Toronto Airport Church, were obtained at

"So when you come to him tonight asking to be filled with the Holy Spirit, I don't want you to even entertain the thought you might get a counterfeit" (John Arnot, pastor, December 16, 1994).

"If he thinks it's God and he likes it, let him enjoy it! Because you can test the fruit later" (Ray Allen, pastor, November 18, 1994)

"God's not near as worried about heresy or noise or mess or distress as we are" (Ray Allen, pastor, October 13, 1994).

"Another thing that hinders is people pray all the time...Our experience is that you will hinder substantially your ability to receive. And so I say to people, 'Look, don't pray.' It's hard to pour out and to pour in at the same time...Don't take control, you can take control later. The whole deal is, you lose control, he takes control" (John Arnot, visiting England in February 14, 1995).

Is it really unnecessary to concern ourselves with whether it's demons of the Holy Spirit giving us euphoria? Consider what was written about Adolf Hitler, and compare his experience to that of these churches:

"Adolf Hitler stood ... like a man in a trance, a man over whom some dreadful magic spell had been cast ... He was swaying on his feet as though caught up in some totally inexplicable euphoria ... His whole [facial appearance] physiognomy and stance appeared transformed as if some mighty Spirit now inhabited his very soul, creating within and around him a kind of evil transformation of its own nature and power" from "The spear of Destiny" (quote from

Consider the following excerpt from the 61st General Synod of the Bible Presbyterian Church meeting in Tacoma, WA July 31 to August 5, 1997. It is written regarding a Toronto-like church in Brownsville, Florida:

"Yet in this Brownsville assembly there is not only violent shaking, but also shrieking and hyena-like laughter. And this is called 'holy.'

"Another aspect of this so-called "revival," "outpouring of God," and "flow of the Spirit" is getting "drunk in the Spirit." Pastor Kilpatrick of Brownsville admitted that he has been so "drunk in the Spirit" that he actually struck his youth pastor's car with his own. He said that while driving he had hit many garbage cans sitting at the curb on several occasions, because he was so "drunk." He added that his wife has been so drunk she couldn't cook. Sometimes his drunken stupors are so severe that he has to be taken from the service in a wheel-chair, Kilpatrick reported.

Kilpatrick recently fell off a building while on the third floor.

I think that aside from those who enjoy being electrified by the occult manifestations, leaders permit the foolery in order to create opportunities for the flow of recognition, money, and drive into their churches, in much the same way that some Catholic churches have used manifestations of Mary, or blood on statues, to bring pilgrims and their money. Indeed, it's likely that many works of "faith healers" are not demonic, but mere tricks.

Who hasn't noticed Benny Hinn literally pushing people over in order to have them "slain in the Spirit"? And someone please inform me when Benny Hinn conducts a miracle that is visible to our naked eyes! Why hasn't one leper ever been brought before him that we might see the leprosy disappear before our very eyes??? Demons can work some healing, but in a very limited way. But if God is working through these men, then we ought to see the fingers and toes of lepers grow back before our eyes, not to mention the healing of many other visible ailments. The fact of the matter is, these faith healers are in it for the money!

The Toronto church boasts pilgrims from all over the world. When one enters the lobby, hundreds of books and tapes on racks hit you in the face, all priced to make money. While making money on books is regular practice for many churches, you would think that such a great and unprecedented move of God, if that is what this is, would spur the Toronto elders to give the books away at cost. How dare they make money on something so profound as the fulfillment of Joel's prophecy leading to the conversion of the world? Yet, the books were priced as high as would be in a typical retail situation.

When I attended the Toronto church for the first (and last) time, I found some disturbing things as the spiritual-manifestation program got under way. I walked around studying the ladies quivering their arms while lying flat on their backs on the floors. Their eyes were shut tight on stern (i.e. resolved) faces, and the whole affair seemed like demon possession. These ladies appeared to me to be very conservative, many over 50 years old. Yet, when I knelt down and spoke to them, they immediately looked up at me and smiled normally, as if they were not truly controlled at all. Well, obviously, they had not been overcome by any spirit...yet...but were in the throws of conjuring them up. In strange appeals to their nervous system, it appeared, they were attempting to actuate ecstatic experiences which, my guess is, they had previously been overcome with, and which they knew to be desirable...a "Christian Nirvana" for lack of a better term!!

Dozens of others were likewise on their backs in organized lines, along strips of bright tape placed on the floor, hoping to conjure up something of their own. There were others standing but jerking their body parts; one man appeared to be having intercourse while standing nearby. One woman was shouting loudly unabashed in what sounded like a war-cry. I approached her and asked her what she was doing. A Jimmy Swaggart supporter defended her "worship" of God. That shed a little light into just what sort of Christians these were who attended this church. They were ultra-charismatics who had not learned from the fall of the Pentecostal biggies that the charismatic movement was led by fleshy men.

It seems to me that the charismatic preachers are the ones who gravitate toward television ministries where the big money is to be found, and sexual sin has been seen to follow right alongside them. Indeed, the very day I wrote this line, I was emailed by an internet pen-pal in Ohio who reported the arrest of a Pentecostal pastor for flashing on the side of the highway. And we all remember Jimmy Bakker. What does God need to do to reveal to us that Pentecostalism is not what it reports to be? Do we forget how Christ leveled the Pharisees for wanting to be big-shot Spiritualists, who placed themselves in their own honor at the head of the Church as Spiritual leaders?

John Arnot really couldn't care less about how his people worship, obviously, so long as they serve to support charismatic global conquest in any way possible. It's not a coincidence that the Toronto phenomena are spreading worldwide, for there is instruction to visitors to bring the "blessing" back to their own churches.


On top of the harm done by demonic manifestations we must include deceptions from prophecies that are uttered from the imaginations of men. Don Clasen, a post-tribber who spent eight years among the Kansas City "prophets," and whose expose on these prophets I strongly recommend, has written:

"Bob Jones was probably most to blame at the start, for regardless of where he picked them up, there is no doubt he was not shy to promote the most outlandish LR/MSOG [Latter Rain/Manifest Sons of God] doctrines, mixing them in with his own subjective experiences. The arrival of John Paul Jackson in 1985 only seemed to reinforce this trend...The arrival of Paul Cain in 1987 only reinforced the dominance of Latter Rain / Manifested Sons influence" (

According to Ernest Gruen, yet another whistle-blower, Bob Jones said, "I didn't have trouble seeing the devils at all...I knew the devils real good when I drank--used to party with 'em out in the beer joints."

Then, after coming out of a mental institution, Jones decided to become a prophet of God. Gruen said that Jones went "from seeing demons regularly to suddenly seeing angels regularly and having strange nightly visions and out-of-body experiences. Both Jones and Bickle estimate that 'Bob normally gets 5 to 10 visions a night, maybe sees angels 10 to 15 times a week,' and has done so since 1974" ("Gruen Report"

One can easily see how Satan stepped into a "Christian ministry." Bob Jones was held up by Kansas-City pastor, Mike Bickle, as the leader of the "prophets," and of a worldwide move. Clasen believes that he was involved with these prophets by the will of God for eight years, in the 1990s, apparently to warn, guide, and ultimately to expose them again (Gruen blew the whistle on them utterly in 1990). After Gruen's expose, Bickle confessed:

1. We had an elite spirit. That's become more and more real to me -- it's so repulsive.
2. We promoted mystical experience in a disproportionate way and it was disastrous.
3. We were careless in the way we communicated prophetic words. This was hurtful in a lot of cases.
4. We were wrong in the way we promoted the city church concept. I still believe in it, but now I believe it's a unity based on friendship

(Charisma, July 1993)

Sounds wonderful. Yet, in that same year, albeit it a few months earlier, we have the following that Bickle must have known about:

In January of 1993, Rick Joyner and Paul Cain published an article in the former's MorningStar Prophetic Bulletin...and this article claimed revelation from God that He wanted to "use Bill Clinton to bring blessing to America." It talked about how Clinton's incredible relativism and indecisiveness were supposed "strengths" and how God was going to come upon him and "turn him into another man" (I Sam 10:6), to "carry out God's policy with a depth of conviction that will surprise even his most vehement detractors." Furthermore, it warned God's people that the young President is "better than we deserve", and "represents a reprieve from the New World Order", while the Christian Right was characterized as a potential new Nazi movement! (Don Clasen)

Clasen, while not a Latter Rainist, nor a pre-tribber, yet shows admiration for the charismatic movement when he heaps scorn on word-of-faith for "destroying the Charismatic Movement." Someone tell Clasen that, in reality, the charismatic movement itself needs to be abandoned because it is the greater foe, having brought us the word-of-faith movement, Latter Rain, pre-tribulationism, full-gospel Pentecostalism, hypocritical mockery of God such as Paul Crouch on a golden throne, and endless scandals heaping derision upon Jesus Christ and his Elect. The Freemasons combined with the Vatican have done less harm to Christianity in the past century!!

Clasen writes:

"...[to] conjure things up in their own absolutely rampant in Charismatic and Restoration circles. I once read an interview with Rick Joyner wherein he explained how he gets his visions. He said he just deliberately sits down and writes at will whatever he sees, whatever he gets! Yet in the Bible, when God gave a vision, the prophet did not initiate it."

Clasen then goes on to say that the Kansas-City prophets were at times guilty of trying to fulfill their own fabricated prophecies (no surprise), such as bringing into existence something like the Toronto Blessing within the ten-year time frame, 1984 to 1994. The Toronto Church started up in 1994, right on schedule! Of course, one could get the impression that this is a true prophecy. But Ernest Gruen tells all that we need to know about the Kansas-City prophets when he relates the following story (in my own words):

Mike Bickle reported that Bob Jones had once prophesied a 3-month drought in May of 1983, which was furthermore predicted to come to an end with a "drought-breaker" on August 23. Mike then tells of how he watched, "day by day," to see if the prophecy would come to pass. He said, "June, no rain...then on August 23, three to four inches of rain!" Bickle claimed that this wonderful example of fulfilled prophecy has the Purpose from Above of confirming the Kansas-City movement. But when Gruen checked things out with the National Weather Bureau and some daily papers, he discovered that there was well over the average rainfall in June (7 inches); that the so-called "drought-breaker" on August 23rd came with a mere fraction of an inch; and that there were six days in June in which there was more rain than on the "drought-breaker" (from the Gruen report found at

In other words, in case you have held the opinion that Bickle and Jones are genuine but wayward fellows, the truth is, they are liars outright...conspirators and connivers come to kill, steal and destroy!!

Here's another K-C prophetic stink bomb that is likely slated for "fulfillment" in the near future:

"The enemy [Satan] had stolen the foundational ministries of apostle and prophet from the church, but God was now restoring them. We were seeing the emergence of the prophetic in the '80s, and they would come to maturity in the '90s. We would begin to see a new wave of apostolic men in the '90s who would come to maturity after the turn of the millennium."

It's Irving's apostolicism risen one more time from the dead!

Latter Rainists claim that we who oppose their miracles have a semblance of Godliness and yet deny the power thereof, like the stiff-necked Jews who rejected the miracles of Jesus. And just what do you suppose they are prophesying upon us? Clasen delivers the goods from a Bob-Jones prophecy:

"But that's not the worst of it. During the 1980's Jones told of another vision or dream he had, this time of a great Civil War coming to the Body of Christ. Like the American Civil War of the 1860's, this would also involve the 'Blues and the Grays', the former symbolizing those who were 'fighting for unity' in the Body of Christ, and the latter those who wanted to keep the people of God enslaved, who were dominated by 'gray matter' (that is, their own carnal minds or logic)."

The blue coats are the good guys in the eyes of Jones, and they're the charismatic ecumenicalists...i.e. all the denominations infiltrated and thereby "purified" under the banner of...them! The bad, non-Spiritual guys in the grey "Confederate" suits are all those who don't want to get in under their me.

Rick Joyner, a self-proclaimed prophet, also predicts that all denominations (but his own Latter-Rain movement) comprise a demonic army destined to fight "Joel's Army." This is the same Rick Joyner who claims to have been knighted by the Knights of Malta, at which time he was granted powers over all knights in the United States; he claims he has the permission from the Knights to knight others of his own choosing!

Are we ready for the civil war that he and the Knights are apparently mustering? How insidious are the betrayals predicted by Jesus, anyway?

Here's a Toronto Blessing video you should see, making a mockery of Jesus:

I haven't seen the 2-hour video below past the start. I didn't want to see anymore. It starts off with some demon-possession at the Toronto Blessing, but in many cases, people actually go out to experience things that are very similar to it, yet they call it a Holy-Spirit experience instead. They allow themselves, in small steps, to become possessed and fooled into thinking it's God's Spirit. The pastors are guilty of more than merely letting it happen.

You don't need to be so straight that your life is dry. Yes, stay on the Straight Road that pleases God, but let your spirit be free and watered too, though with a sound mind. You know the difference. Don't you? Don't choke your spirit for seeking to be righteous. God understands that growth in the Right direction takes time. The training of Christianity requires circumstances and trials in life, and circumstances can't happen all at once. There's nothing wrong with dancing for joy, nothing wrong with singing for the love of it, just don't be crazy about it. Keep your head. Don't make God your "drug" in church. Beware churches that dance to get you one step further to hyped or energetic weirdness. If you know you're a true believer without fakery, and something doesn't seem right in / at church, you're probably right. Just don't judge a church for the ordinary and expected wrongs, the same kinds of wrongs common to sincere Christians in general. If you're hoping that God's forgiveness is big enough to forgive your failures, you have the makings of a true believer.


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