Arpad Hungarians on the Ticino River
Queen Margaret and the Radomir Nimrod Line in Pavia
Pepinids from Pavia were Marici-vingians
In the last update, multiple secrets seemed to be uncovered in the roots of Rosicrucian Templars. Credit goes to a tip through emailer Patterson leading to Euganeo in Padova, where king-Andrew blood was found. But then the root of both Andrew and his brother, Levente, was found on the Ticino/Tessen river, the river of the Laevi Gauls. Even though I knew that Andrew's great-grandfather was Taksony, and even though I traced Texas elements to the Ticino term, I failed in the last update to link "Taksony" to "Ticino."
No one seems to know that Hungarians trace to northern Italy. This update explains. It also seeks to discover why Templars trace to Bulgaria-related Armenians, this being virgin territory for me personally.
It was reasoned that king Andrew's grandfather, Michael was somehow linked to Michael Rangabe of Byzantium. The reason for that was due to the suspicion that Andrew was from the bloodline somehow linked to Inger the Varangian guard of Byzantium (husband of Melissena Rangabe, granddaughter of Michael Rangabe). The theory was that the Andrew-line link to Inger had to be by way of a Byzantine link/merger with Bulgarians of Andrew's line. That's what the clues were demanding.
It's known that the Andrew line to Bulgarians were from a marriage of Andrew's father, Vazul/Basil, to a daughter (Anastazya) of Samuel of Bulgaria, an Armenian bloodline, but I had no idea how Samuel linked to Byzantines. The hunch that Samuel's line did link to Byzantines suggested that it would prove to be to be from Basils of Byzantium, thus explaining Vazul's name. It was therefore reasoned that Vazul could link to Leo V of Byzantium, an Armenian and a father of Basil.
HOWEVER, I had forgotten that there was a Basil I of Byzantium, an Armenian too, and father of Leo VI. I had forgotten that Basil I was a son of Eudokia Ingerina, daughter of Inger the Varangian and Melissena!!!
Therefore, what seemed difficult to believe, that the Vazul dynasty of Hungary was Byzantine, was proving to be true. Looking deeper into Andrew's line, I found excellent corroboration. Taksony becomes extremely important to the dragon bloodline because he was the grandson of Arpad, chief founder of the Hungarians, whom I trace quite confidently to Arpad/Arpad of Syria, a city called Arados by the Greeks. Upon realizing that the dragon of mythical Ares traced to Arpad/Arados (some years ago), it was realized further that Arados named Arad in the Hungarian theater, wherefore Arpad the father of Hungarians should have been from that theater.
Taksony was the son of Zoltan:
[Zoltan] was the youngest (fifth) son of Arpad. The Gesta Hungarorum names Zolta as the successor of his father, and also mentions that he married a daughter of Menumorut [a Khazar], the local military leader in the region of Bihar (Romanian: Biharea) at the time of the Hungarian conquest (Hungarian: Honfoglalas).
Clicking from there to the Bihar article, we find a map showing that Bihar is smack beside Arad. Moreover, in the last update, it was realized that the Biggars of Flemish Scotland, whom I've previously traced to "Bihar," were Bagratids (possibly of the Samuel>Vazul line). That is, Bihar was named after "BAGRat." By the way, the Arms of Bihar use fish.
Arpad made a military alliance with Leo VI, and they won the war against Bulgaria. Therefore, Byzantines were in Bulgaria in time to merge with Samuel's line and thus make good on the proposed Andrew-line link to Byzantines in Bulgaria. When I got to the article on Leo VI, he was styled, "Sophos," and for that he is called, "The Wise." However, I contend that this is an erroneous interpretation, for as soon as I saw "Sophos," I recalled that Samuel's father (Nikola), was "probably governor of Sofia..." That is, it seems better to interpret Leo as "Leo of Sofia."
In that picture, we have one Leo VI, -- an Armenian, son of a Rangabe, and grandson of Inger the Varangian -- related to Nikola, husband of a Bagratid Armenian, and father of Samuel. Vazul steps in and marries Samuel's daughter...and then Samuel's son with Kosara was Gavril Radomir, the founder, it's now appearing to me, of Scottish Freemasonry (see the last update for Gavril's links to Scottish royals and to Scotland's "Andrew's Cross").
Place your bets on whether "Radomir" was named after "Arad," and the Khazars of the Mures river running through Bihar and Arad. If this Rad=Arad trace is correct, we could have Gavril's ancestry tracing back to Ares' dragon cult...of Arphaxadites. But this trace works extra-well because Radomir is Armenian while I also identify the Ares dragon as Ares' daughter, Armenia-like Harmonia. Moreover, Bulgarians were fundamental descendants of Thracians, and I identified Ares dragon also as Thraco=Draco.
Samuel's Bagratid mother was " Ripsimia (also known as Hripsime Bagratuni) was an Armenian princess and daughter of King Ashot II Bagratuni (914 - 928)..." As the Andrew line from Ripsimia>Anastazya was traced to the Este theater in Padova, what about Este links to "Ashot"? Or, recalling that the Eustace surname was a variation of the Stacy/Stasey surname, and that the latter was part of the AnaSTASIA name, what about "Eustace" links both to "Ashot" and "Este"?? This very moment I checked for, and found, an Anastasi Coat (crosier), surname first found Ravenna (Emilia-Romagna), not far from Este.
The Anastasi crozier could link to the Arms of the Bagratuni Dynasty, a bird with a lamb in it's claws.
Up until now, I hadn't had a clue as to what "Ripsimia" could link to. The "Hripime" variation in the quote above suggested the "Grip fast" motto of the Leslies, said to be a motto in honor of Drummonds. The Hrip-Grip link makes sense because Leslies were Hungarians while Drummonds were sons directly of king Andrew. As per "Grip," we could ask why the French Graves Coat looks like the German Drummond Coat.
If Ashot traces to Este, then an Ashot trace to Ishtar elements makes sense: "Ashot I was the first Bagratid King, the founder of the Royal dynasty. He was recognized as prince of princes by the court at Baghdad in 861, which provoked war with local Arab emirs. Ashot won the war, and was recognized as King of the Armenians by Baghdad in 885." Earlier, the article reads: "The later Bagratids also claimed descent from King David of the Hebrew Bible." At the end of this update, I was led back to Astons and Asters (the latter said to be one of the most-important Illuminati families), via Stones / Steins and related Rothschilds/Rodsteins.
The investigation at that time will include what appear to be solid Nimrod elements, as well as the Schauers/Schorrs, terms much like "Scherf(f)," the latter being the bloodline of George "Bush" Sr. (former American president) who controlled the CIA for Nazi spies (see "Scherf" in the 4th update in April, 2011 for that topic). This reminds of the last update where the Hitler surname appeared to trace to Attila, for Hungarians trace themselves to him.
Bagratids were named after (or vice versa) the Bagrevand region of Armenia. That map shows the region to be off the Aras river...to which I trace "Ares." Bagratids are said to be rooted in a Sper location (or "Ispir") of Armenia, but then Georgia has a Sper location too. The Armenian Sper is in the north-west portion of Erzurum province over-looking the Rize theater. I say that because the German Rice/Reisz/Rise Coat uses gold-on-blue croziers, the colors (and only symbol) of the Anastasi-Coat crozier.
Moreover, while the Anastasi surname was first found in Ravenna, the Rice Coat uses ravens. Then WOW. The "hardi" motto term of the latter Rices is obvious code for the Hardy surname (because both surnames use the same Shield), which I wasn't going to mention until a hardy=Herod came to mind, at which timer I looked at the Scottish Hardy Coat to see black boars (!!) the symbol of Esau according to the book of Enoch.
The latter's write-up decided to define the surname as "brave," and then we find a Brave/Bravo surname first found in Padova. But the other Hardy surname decided to define it as "strong," and then we find an "est" in the motto of the Strong Coat. The Strong Coat is the Este eagle, but in gold on red, the color of the Brave/Bravo lion. Red and gold were the colors of the so-called Macedonian dynasty of Byzantines:
The dynasty was named after its founder, Basil I the Macedonian, who came from the theme of Macedonia. The dynasty's founder and many subsequent emperors were of Armenian descent, hence the dynasty is also referred to by some authors as the Armenian Dynasty
In case you've forgotten, Basil I was father of Leo VI Sopho, the Byzantine to whom I trace the Andrew line...which I traced in turn from Esztergom (Hungary) to Este (Padova). Red and gold were also the colors of the identical Andrea and Stacy Coats, and then we can see an "anda" term buried in the Strong motto.
I think a strong and brave case has been made here in tracing king Andrew to Armeno-Byzantines of Bulgaria, and yet that doesn't readily explain the Andrew-line trace to northern Italy that starts as early as Ticino-like Taksony. It is said that Hungarians were Magyars and Kabars from the east, beside the Khazars, creating difficulty for an Hungarian trace to Italy. But then Byzantines had conquered in northern Italy centuries before the Hungarians arrived to Pannonia.
What we are seeing again and again is that Hebrew Rosicrucianism traces to Khazars, not Israelites. It's an assumption not of mine that Khazars were Israelite Hebrews. Everyone else has made that assumption for failing to realize other kinds of historical Hebrews. Arphaxadites were carriers of pagan Hebrews. Intuition tells me that Huns under Attila were Khazars/Bulgars, and that a part of Attila's Huns into northern Italy became the Taksony line to Vazul. It means that I should be on the look-out for Huns on the Ticino river, who somehow got to Pannonia, probably not by mass migration, but by royal marriage(s).
It may even be that Taksony's father, Zoltan, was in northern Italy, for he was also "Zaltas," smacking of Saletto, beside Euganeo. While on Ticini-related clans in the last update: "The Thicks/Thackers (in the colors of Tess' and Tejas'/Texas') were, like the Dickens/Digons, first found in Staffordshire." The Salt surname (in Anastasi colors) was also first found in Staffordshire. Entering "Solter" brings up the same-colored Saltsmanns. The Solter/Salzmann description: "3 ostrich feathers, between two elephant trunks, each trunk decorated with 4 peacock feathers." The Salt crest is "A demi ostrich with a horseshoe in its mouth." I see the ostrich as code for the German version of Austria, and then we find that the Saltzas surname was first found in Austria.
Arpad himself had a son, Levente (king Andrew had a son by the same name that was linked in the last update to the Leventina region on the Ticino/Tessen). One cousin of Levente is shown as "Tas," smacking of the Tease/Tess (saltire in colors reversed to Annan(dale)s) and similar surnames linked to Ticini/Tessen elements. Tas is shown with a sibling, Falitzi, an Italian name if ever we heard one. It just so happens that the Fallis/Faletti surname is in white on blue (trefoils), the colors of the Andrew's Cross and other facets of Andrew's ancestry, and was first found in Venice.
The father of Falitzi and Tas is shown as Jutas, and then we find leopards in one Jude Coat and the Eustace cross in colors reversed in the other Jude Coat. I've tended to trace leopards to the Khazars of Transylvania, but ever since Julie revealed to me that Freemasons use the leopard symbol for NimROD, I've traced leopards to Hungarian Arpads too. The Rhodes surname uses a leopard, suggesting that leopards could trace in particular to Arad>Radomir elements. The Dice surname traced to Ticini elements compares well with the German Rhodes/Rodes Coat. I recall that trefoils are traced to Roque(feuil)s=Rockefellers who merged in Languedoc with the Rodes surname of Rodez.
I've just learned at the Levente link above that Taksony's son saw one of his daughters married to Gabriel Radomir (Samuel's son) of Bulgaria.
Arpad is given a father, Almos. What follows was rather amazing. Seeking Almos-like surnames, "Almon" turned up an interesting Coat. I might not have mentioned it but for the write-up: "Almon is an ancient Anglo-Saxon name that is derived from the Old English personal name Ęthelmund. This name is composed of two elements: Ęthel, which means noble, and mund, which means protection. However, the surname Almon may also derive from the Old French word aleman, which means German." The Aethelings were introduced and emphasized only in the last update, and they were traced firstly to Euganeo, where the Andrew line under discussion was also traced, and secondly the Aethelings were traced to the Laevi and Ananes.
Therefore, why does the Almon Crest use leaves??? The surname is properly presented as "Almond," and even uses almond branch (with leaves) in the Coat. The Crest description is: "Three blue cinquefoils with green stalks and leaves." It suggests that "stalk" is code for Almon(d) kin. As no Stalk surname comes up (I've been through this exercise before on someone else's stalk term), the expectation is surnames like Stake, Stock, and Stack. Entering "Stack" brings up a clan which came up as the Stake surname in the last update as per the "stake" definition of "Pilate." There was another Stake surname that came up, which was properly the Stock/Stoke surname (both it and the Stacks use ermined lions), and it's the latter that is most-suspect as per "stalk" because it was from a Stock location ("near Caen, Normandy").
Let's not forget that Caens use Hungary-suspect leopard heads and the white-on-blue (lattice) of the Andrew line. The Pilates also use white on blue (pheons).
The Stock Crest uses olives leaves, making this a Laevi-suspect clan already. We don't forget that Andrew's wife was from an (olive- and "Leaf-like) Olaf of Sweden. But the big point is the rarish design of the two-tailed Stock lion (suspect in the last update as the Bohemian lion, which is in the colors of the Stake/Stack lion), for moments before coming to the Almon Coat, the Stock-lion design, in colors reversed, was found in the Ulman/Olman Coat!!! That proves that the "stalk" term in the Almon description is code for Stocks.
But it doesn't prove that Almons and Ulmans/Olmans link to Almos, the father of Hungarians. However, as you may know that the Arms/flag of Hungary used red and white horizontal bars, what about those bars in the German Ulman Coat?!?
It could also be said that a black-on-white lion, the colors of the Ulman/Olman lion, is in the Harp(er) Coat! That's an Almos>Arpad combo if ever we saw one. PLUS, the Ulman/Olman lion is in the colors of the German Alman/Almon eagle (adler design). The latter's write-up traces to "Aleman," what Germans call themselves. For my records, one English Ulman Coat uses horseshoes and a large cinquefoil in the colors of the Tass/Tash/Tache cinquefoil.
For anyone wanting to go the way of Alt terms, it should be said that Almans (in Elm colors) are also Altmans and Ellmans (and Dalmans). The phrase used by Rosicrucians/Freemasons, "cutting of the elm," may even be code for the Cottians by the Cutt>Cutting surname, using lattice like the Cotts/Cottins (and Caens).
Entering "Alt" or "All" (in Basil and Basel colors) brings up a clan first found in Basel, using a gold lion in Crest, as does the Allemann Crest. We are definitely on the clan that named itself after the Alemanni Germans. It uses German Bauer colors, and even the Danish Bauer leopard.
The evidence thus far seems to link the Hungarian Almos character to Alemanni. As French Alans use the Bauer stars (English Alans use leaves), what about the discovery in the last update, that the lion design (ermined) of the Stocks is used by English Stewarts in colors reversed to the ermined Stake/Stack lion (I tend to trace ermines to Alans>Stewarts)? If we're going to trace the Rosicrucian dragon to Hungarian founders, we know that the dragon cult must come through the Stewarts too, and indeed Alans of Dol were in-part from northern Italy, of the Visconti and Massins/Masons there.
The Stewart-related Stocks use an "insons" motto term, no doubt code for the green-snaked Innes/Innice clan of Moray elements. Viscontis originally used a green snake. The Innes motto uses yet another "Prudentia" motto term, seen twice in the last update and traced to the Prudes. As Prudes were traced to PodeBrody of Bohemia, how is it that the Stack/Stake lion is in the colors of the two-tailed Bohemian lion? Or, how is it that the Innes motto term is a topic in the first place as per the Stock motto term, "insons," while Stocks use a two-tailed lion. I now see that the gold Prude-Crest lion is that of the All/Alt/Ault Crest.
The MontFORTS, who use a two-tailed lion in the colors of the Bohemian lion, were traced (by me) to Monforte in Cuneo of Piedmont, beside Mon(t)ferrat. The two-tailed Stocks use a "Fortes" motto term. Monforte and Montferrat are in the theater of the Cottian Alps. The Harp(er)s use "fortis," now suggesting that this common motto term is code (though not necessarily always) for Montforts. Recalling that Caens use lattice that I trace to Cottian surnames, how is it that we find, in the Stock write-up, that the surname "is a reference to Stock, near Caen, Normandy"? Montforts are traced in their write-up to "Montfort near Pont-Audemer, also in Normandy."
The Innes/Innice Coat is three blue-and-white Zionists stars, colors reversed from the Zionists stars of the Rad/Rademacher Coat (latter surname first found in Bavaria, and in Bavaria-lozenge colors). In the last update, the Rads/Rademachers were linked suggestively to Gavril/Gabriel Radomir. As the Gavers use the white-on-blue Andrew's Cross, it seemed a certainty that Gavers were in honor of Gavril Radomir, husband of "Margareth of Hungary." It was then found that both Gabe surnames use white-on-blue too. We now find that Montforts, suspect as Rad/Rademacher kin, lived near Audemer, while the sword design of the Gabes/Gablers is used by the French Aude Coat of a surname first found in Savoy = Cottian theater. The Gabes use their swords crossed, i.e. in the shape of a saltire, mimicking Andrew's Cross.
The Gabriels also use white-on-blue, which by the way are the Massi and Massi-related Stewart colors. The Gabriel write-up: "First found in Normandy where they held a family seat in the department of Calvados [= home of the Meschins] in the region of Caen, where they were a distinguished family of great nobility...In the same early period, about the 11th and 12th century, they branched to Brittany and Poitou."
In support of the Andrew-line trace to Euganeo, it was shown in the last update that the sawtooth-like symbol of the Gabriels should link to the same of the Eugene Coat, but I stopped short at that time in linking also to the sawtooth-like bar in the English Stewart Coat (the Coat that uses the Stock- and Ulman/Olman-lion design). The colors of the Stewart lion, red and white, may link specifically to the red and white bars of the German Ulmans/Olmans, and that may in-turn suggest that they are the same bars as per the Arms of Hungary.
While still on Gabe-like surnames, it of course should be added that the Danish-Bauer and Alleman leopard design is used by the Gibbs Crest. In fact, the Gibbs Coat uses battle axes, the object held by the Bauer leopard. It's no small deal to be able to trace Gibbons>Gibbs' to Gabriel Radomir. Note that the Gibbon Coat uses the Annan(dale) saltire.
How is it a rodincidence that the Irish Gaven Coat uses three red roundels on gold, the symbol of the German Rode/Rhode Coat? In my mind, this indicates that Gavril Radomir had elements in the Rodez / Rhodanus region of France, and for that reason I just entered "Roussel" instead of "Russell" to get the Roussillon surname (the location of Roussillon is in the southern realm of the Rodez Ruthenes). The Roussel Coat (in the colors of the Rodez Coat and the Arms of Roussillon) uses a gold-on-red (adler) eagle (Strongs use it too), a symbol on the Yrp/Arp Coat.
If it's hard for you to say at this point whether the Yrps/Arps are of Arpad Hungarians, let heraldry come to the rescue. First, Yrps/Arps were first found in Lincolnshire/Lindsey (where the Rhodes surname was first found), where I trace the peoples of Lindos on the island of Rhodes. Secondly, and this is a biggie that put a smile on my face, the Yrp/Arm Shield is also the Wheelwright Shield, and it was shown in the last update that the German Rad/Rademacher (Bavaria) write-up traces to "wheelwright."
Therefore, as the Rad/Rademacher colors are those of the clans linking to Gavril Radomir, it seems very much that Yrps/Arps were named in honor (or vice versa) of Arpad. We saw earlier in this update that Arpad had a son, Jutas, father of Tas and Falitzi, while the Fallis/Faletti surname uses white on blue (Gavril-Radomir colors) trefoils. But then the English Rod/Rode surname also uses trefoils, which recalls the Roquefeuil merger (by marriage) with the Rhode surname of Rodez:
"Henri II, Count de Rodes...AKA: Henri II, Seigneur de Roquefeuil...Born: before 1245 in Guyenne, France, son of Hughes IV, Count de Rodes and Ysabeau, Dame de Roquefeuil..." Ysabeau had for a father, "Raimond II, Seigneur de Roquefeuil...AKA: Raimond d'Anduse" (line 10)..."Bertrand, Sire d'Anduze...Bertrand married and then adopted the name Roquefeuil from his wife..." (line 40).
Anduze, smacking of Anders, is in the Roussillon region of Languedoc (here's an heraldic article on Anduse if you can read it). The Andrea and Stacy Coats are identical saltires in the colors of the Arms of Roussillon, and then those arms are nothing but horizontal bars i.e. the Arms of Hungary are horizontal red and white bars.
Let's go back to the Audemer location of Montforts. Here's what was said in the 4th update of August, where Hitlers were discovered to be leopard-using Wittings / Whites and Wittels(bachs) of Bavaria, suggesting the Bauer-branch Bavarians. Many months ago, Wittelsbachs were traced to Budapest:
Amazingly, as the Hitler surname will be discovered as a version of the Wittels and Otts, so I now find an "aude" motto term in the Wittington Coat [Bauer stars, goat]. The Audes/Oddes (in the colors of the Italian Ottones/Ottos) use a Coat like the Wittingtons, and were first found in Audeville, Savoy. Although Candidas were first found in Naples, they were stationed in Savoy. Possibly, therefore, the MontAULTS, first found in Naples, were the Audes of Savoy. There is a split Shield (a Fulkes theme) in the Italian Alda Coat (Tuscany), and it comes up when entering "Audi."
My primary reason for quoting this was the similarity between "Taksony" and "Tucson" (Arizona), but then "Tuscany" even worked itself into the quote. My main point was that Tucson is said to have been named by a native group called, "The English name Tucson derives from...was borrowed from the O'odham name Cuk Son, meaning '(at the) base of the black [hill'..." By now, you know how I feel about derivations like that. I'd rather assume a trace to Taksony elements (natives of America have not been there for 10,000 years or more; that's the fantasy of evolutionists who really do lie to the world for the sake of advancing evolution).
The O'odham language is in relation to Uto-Aztecs. On the map, they are marked as "ute," beside the Shoshone region, which smacks of "Ashot." In fact, the Ashot term smacks of "Aztec" itself. Kin of the Shoshone "indians" include a Takic community, smacking of Taksony>Ticino elements. We're not forgetting the Ticino trace I make to "Tejas/Texas" (Spanish surname) or that Spaniards were amongst American natives. Under the Takic category (map link above) we find "Serrano-Gabrielino," peoples from the San Gabriel mountains (California). Gabincidence? What about the fact that Gavril Radomir was the brother of Katun (also "Katalin") Anastazya (Vazul's wife), while under the Takic category we also find "Kitanemuk."
Gavril and Anastazya were siblings of David, Aron, Moses, all children of Samuel, whose mother was from the Ashot line of Bagratids...who claimed to be from king David of Israel, and therefore from the tribe of Judah. We then had some Freemasons by the name of Mormons claiming that American Indians were Israelites. Why did they make that far-fetched claim? And why did they lie to the world by writing the false Book of Mormon that "explained" the Israelite nature of American Indians?
In the quote above from the August update, we saw that Audes, using the Gabe/Gabler sword, were found in Audeville of Savoy, thus clinching them as the Montforts of Audemer. The idea presented that Audes were MontAULTs then evokes the All/Alt/Ault surname that entered this update as per the Almons and Olmans, etc., suspect as lines of Almos, father of Arpad. We saw in the Gabriel write-up that although they were first found near Caen (Audemer was near Caen too), they branched out to Brittany and Poitiers. I remind you, therefore, of what else what said ion the 4th update of August:
The emailer who lives near Poitiers said that nearby Loudun is somewhat controlled by Montaults...
Apparently, the Montaults lead to the Mauds/Montaltos (in Montault colors) of Cheshire. There was a Maud/MATilda of Brittany that married a Gaunt of Fulk-like Folkingham...
There was an empress Matilda who had married the first Plantagenet. Her mother was another Matilda, born of the Malcolm-Margaret royals of Scotland. Could this trace the Montaults of the Poitiers theater to royal Scotland? Yes, because it's possible that the Pictones of Poitiers led to Picts.
Interestingly, there is a Marcy/Marsay/Marseille surname first found in Poitiers. They are in the colors of both March Coats.
Again, it's possible that Gabriel Radomir's wife, "Margareth of Hungary," was the mother of Maclom's Margaret (see last update for details). The latter Margaret's mother, Agatha, could then trace to Agatha, second wife of the Samuel above (it was suspected in the last update, in order to explain the naming of Scotland's Margaret, that this Agatha was Margareth of Hungary). Let me therefore repeat the Montfort write-up: "...one of two places Montfort-sur-Lisle near Argentan in the Normandy district, or Montfort near Pont-Audemer, also in Normandy." The Argentan location smacks of the Margaret>Margeson surname said to be "derived from a location in Normandy called Argenson." The Margy/Mackie lion is identical to the Margeson Coat above that comes up when entering "Mackesy," except that the Margy/Mackie lion is in the white-on-blue of the Gabriel-Radomir lines (these lines include the Andrew and Malcolm surnames using the same saltire in colors reversed).
There is an Argentan/Argent surname said to be from the Argentan location, using white-on-red grails. These are Rhodian colors, and so the red roses of the Languedoc Margarets/Marquets could apply. The Marks/Marques' were likewise first found in Languedoc, and they look like a branch of red-rose "Jewish" Marks/Marx'/Marcus' (the latter's star should link to the Weis-surname of Bavaria and therefore to the Bavarian Illuminati that Karl Marx was working for). Further evidence that we are dealing with Rhodians>Redones of Rodez / Roussillon is in the Margeson and Margy lion found (in the last update) in the Prater surname, first found in Lincolnshire.
The English Mark/Marx Coat uses a gold-on-red lion, the symbol of the Rodez/Roder surname (first found in Languedoc). The Rodez Coat is used exactly, but in colors reversed, by the French (Dauphine) Marcus Coat! Unfortunately, I cannot yet clinch the Margaret-of-Hungary>Scotland link to Mark/Marx/ surnames, but the possibility is certainly there as per the previous trace of Gabriel-Radomir elements to Rodez elements.
As the Margaret line merged with Fulks=Plantagenets to produce the mainline Norman kings of England, I should add that the checks of the Languedoc Marks/Marques' look like those of the Italian Fulks and similar Massis/Mattis', for the bent-necked eagle of the Massis/Mattis' Chief is found in the German Mark/Marque Coat, the Coat that also uses the Fulkes double-tipped spear.
A trace to the Russian god, Rod, husband of Rozanica (we get it), is likely here. But as Rod was depicted with an egg, what about mythical Leda, the known root of the Ladon dragon cult, whose children were laid in eggs? One of her children, Helen, was traced (by me) to the Halams/Hallands of Yorkshire, and these in turn were determined to be a branch of Malcolms/MalCALAMS (in Halam/Halland colors), also first found in Yorkshire. As the MalCalam Coat (stags, Hungarian-Arpad symbol) is Andrew's Cross in colors reversed, and because it's a no-brainer to link Malcolm III to Andrew's Cross by his marriage to Margaret, it seems that Rod indeed linked to Redone/Ruthene elements of Gabriel Radomir.
I once found that the Ross clan of Scotland was called "Clan Rosich, Na Gille Andras" (Clan Ross, Children of Andrew). Later, I found this quote: "In the ancient Russian mythology Dazhdbog appears as a son of the Almighty Perun and a mermaid named Ros...One branch of Slavs that lived near Ros called themselves rosichi or later rusichi that finally gave a name to the state of Rus." The god, Rod, is a Slavic-Rus god (though there's no easy telling that it couldn't have originated in the Scandinavian Rus).
It's interesting that the Gille surname (black boar) was first found in Yorkshire too. Might "Gille Andras" be code in-part for the Gilles, therefore? Again, I had found an online phase, "Marot de Yorvik," in reference to Maurice Drummond, grandson of king Andrew. It suggested that Maurice and/or his father and/or some Rosses / Andrews ended up in York. From the last update:
Bagratids can now be traced to certain Ligurians, for the "Giving and Forgiving" motto of the Biggars reveals that they were kin to the swan-using Givens/Giverns, who were first found in Lanarkshire (where Biggars were first found)...ZIKERS, folks, this is shaking me up, for after writing that, I clicked to the Irish Givens/Gibbons (Gilbert colors), and there was nearly the Annandale Coat!!! Then, the latter's write-up traces to "Gilbert" (I don't think I believe that "Gibbon" and "Gilbert" were the same entities, but more likely the two were merged), while French Gilberts were first found in Provence, where the French Andreas were first found!
Check out the French Gilles Coat, which is half the Andrea saltire.
I tend to trace Gils to Kyles and therefore to the Piast>Mieszko Poles, where I trace mythical Helen's brother to. Remember, though, that the Rads/Rademachers trace to "wheelwright," while mythical Piast was "Piast Kolodziej the Wheelwright." You may have read where I traced the white-on-blue Moray stars to Piasts, but then the Rad/Rademacher Coat uses white-on-blue Zionists stars. I can now add that the Wheelwright surname uses a "Res" motto term, perhaps code for a Rus clan/peoples.
I would like to stress the great discovery that the Andrew line traces to the Ananes Gauls. The Wheelwright Shield is used by the Yrps/Arps/Irp/Erps, which we assume is a clan named in honor of Arpad, for Tates, who use the same Shield in Yrp/Arpo colors-reversed, also use the Annan(dale) Shield-and-Chief.
Tates had been traced tentatively to the family of Yuya of Kemmis, who is thought to have been a Mitanni entity in the elite service of pharaoh Akhenaten. The question still is whether AKHENaten traces to "Aachen" or "Euganeo." I am very certain that the Mitanni bloodline to which Veres trace themselves included the Massey surname from Messene>Messina (I'm not tracing "Massey" to "Mitanni," however). This is said because I trace the Mitanni through Methoni/Modon of Messene (Sparta theater, where Helen's egg cult was found) to Modena, near Euganeo. Moreover, the Tates are also Tayte," smacking of the Tattons/Taytons-of-Mascy. Tates were first found in Berwickshire, where I trace the muzzled Macey bears.
In Wikipedia's Levente article, it reads: "Levente was son of Vazul, cousin of Istvan of Hungary, and an unknown woman from the family Tatony." "Tatony" is a term that has been there for years and so I don't imagine it's a spelling error from "Taksony." Another webpage: "Of Vazul's three sons (with his wife N from Tatony family or a woman who may (or may not) have been daughter of Tsar Samuel of Bulgaria, Katun Anastazya) Andras (Andrew I), Bela and Levente... I believe that comes from a Wikipedia article too. It's telling that Vazul had two wives, Katun Anastazya and an "N", and it's suggesting that it's not altogether known which of the two wives was mother to Andrew, Bela, and Levente.
Tates use a pine apple, perhaps code for the Epp variation of the related Yrps/Arps. The Tatton write-up helps us to link to Tate-related Wheelwrights: "Tatton is a name whose history is connected to the ancient Anglo-Saxon tribes of Britain. The name is derived from when the Tatton family once lived in the township of Tatton found in the parish of Rostherne in the county of Cheshire." Entering "Rostherne," we find a clan first found in Yorkshire, where Wheelwrights, who use a "Res" motto term, were first found.
Malcolm III also married a Halland bloodline, wherefore the fact that both MalCalams and same-colored Halams (The latter come up when entering "Halland") were first found in Yorkshire begs us to trace "Malcolm" to Hallands (Halland is a place in the Swedish-Norway border region). Now that Margaret is proving to be from Rod the egg god, what about the trace of Hallands to Helen to egg child? Malcolm III had married two egg-line women???
As I just traced "Radomir" to "Arad" on some good speculation, and then back to "Arados"=Arpad, the place that I ventured to view as (res-like) Ares of proto-Rhodes, note that "roto" means "wheel," the same meaning given to both "Rad." Plus, in my chapter title, Who's the Wheel Dragon Line?", I was playing on the Redones of Rodez. I was telling that the Varangians were traced by one online writer to a family using a "rot'r" term (he/she didn't capitalize it but I think he assumed it had been).
As the Rod god is tracing to Ares of the Arados>Rhodes>Rhodope line, ask whether Leda the egg woman traces to Ares. Yes, for the Ares dragon, once merging with Cadmus Boiotians, became the mythical "Sparti." And I traced the Biblical dragon to mythical Lotan>Ladon before clinching the "Leda" trace to "Leto/Latona" and therefore to "Ladon."
I traced Ares to the Hebros=Maritsa river with his special mate. Aphrodite, where the Rhodope region gave birth mythically to Kikon, an egg-like term that I traced to the CYCnus swan of Liguria. But I didn't stress Kikon as an egg-like term. That idea is presenting itself now because Rod traces well to Rhodope of Slav domains. There was, and may still be, a koki-like Aryan term (I can't recall the correct spelling) that meant "egg," which no doubt created our "cock" and "chick(en)."
So, when we read that a swan mated with Leda, it looks like code for a merger of the Ladon river Lydians in Arcadia (north side of Sparta) and the Ares-related proto-Rus. This merger apparently defines the Ladon>Leda dragon cult that Revelation speaks of. It finally dawned on me that Ares-related peoples named Arcadia as an Ares-Cadusii combination when the Ares Rus merged with CADmus. The astrological arca=bear was named after "Arcadia," but then the Ladon-rooted Latins called it "ursa," a Hros/Rus-like term (which I mention because the bear is a Russian symbol to this day).
It should therefore be said that the Wheelwrights could link to the Shield/Shiell surname (in Gabriel-Radomir white on blue) of bear-depicted Berwickshire, for the Wheelwright-Crest description is: "An heraldic antelope holding between the forepaws a shield on which there is a red Catherine wheel." The Shield/Shiell Crest is the dove-with-olive-branch of the Stocks, the latter traced above to interior Liguria...yet their olive symbol should trace to the Laevi. Wheelwrights (via the Tates) were traced to Ananes.
The Shields/Shiells even use a green-on-white trefoil centrally, the symbol of the English Rods/Rodes.
Aha! Why is the Wheelwright Coat now looking like a cracked egg??? Is the dancette in general a symbol of Leda's egg line? The day after writing that, the Wheelwright-style Shield was found in the Margree/MarjorieCoat (!), in Gavril-Radomir blue and white.
The latter Coat also shows daisies, and when entering "Daisy" (Shield/Shiell colors), we get a Deas/Dias surname (identified recently with the MacCartheys/Artys / Desmonds of Muskerry) with a write-up tracing to an unidentified David that is of course suspect as queen Margaret's son: "They lived in Angus (in the modern region of Tayside), and claim descent from Gaelic MacDhai, son of David. " Their Crest is a "bee feeding on a daisy." What about the Tayside location as it could link to Tates/Taytes...who use the Margree-Marjorie-style Shield?
Davidsons use the MacCarthey/Arty stag, and were first found in Perth, beside the Daisys of Angus. The Davidson write-up: "Some accounts suggest that around 1000 AD the Catti (Chattan) Clan, from whom the Davidson Clan descends, broke into two distinct factions, the MacKintosh and the MacPherson clans. The Davidson Clan was part of the MacPherson element, but always considered itself to be the senior clan of the Chattan group." Mackintosh" looks like "kin of Tosh," possibly tracing to Ticino elements.
When going to the MacCarthey/Arty Coat moments ago, I accidentally spelled, "Cathie," yet it did bring up the MacCarthy/Arty Coat, meaning that the Deas=Desmond elements of Muskerry were, as expected from the Davidson link to Daisys/Deas', Catti of Clan Chattan, and moreover this should reveal that the Catherine wheels in the Wheelwright Coat are code for the MacCathies/Carthys.
Check out the red-on-white saltire (color of the Annan(dale) satire of the Desmond Coat! And what's that "aboo" motto term doing in the Desmond Coat? The following is what was in the last update:
The Mores/Moors/Muirs are easily linked to the Salyes Ligurians (on the Durance river) because they use a "Duris" motto term, code for the Durance river on which the Salyes lived. Irish Mores use an "a-bu" motto term, if that helps to link Mores to Sullivans=Salyes [Sullivans use "abu"). We may wonder whether "bu" and "boo" refer to the Butteri>Bute line, for it just so happens that the Irish More-Coat lion is also the Morgan-Coat lion while Morgan le Fay was a chief ruler of Bute=Avalon.
That quote was shown here because the Chattan and Chatan Coats use the Botter (= Butteri) bend! The Sullivan Coat also uses the MacCarthy and Davidson stag design, and the Sullivan lion is also the MackinTosh lion. What this all means, if you've lost sight of it, is that the Margaret>David line traces to Salyes Ligurians, Butteri, and therefore to the Piedmont theater. It was astounding to find, therefore, as you will see below, that Piedmont has an Alessandria province, for Margaret's son after David was, Alexander!
It's worth mentioning that a red roundel is officially a "torteau" or a "cake." Near Pavia is a Tortona location, and then torteaus are used by the Dice Coat as well as the German Rhods/Rhodes Coat. [An hour after writing this paragraph, torteaus were re-found in the Gaven/Gavin Coat. Just before that, a Gavi location in Alessandria was found!!! Very safe to say, the torteau is code for Tortona elements]. The Dices were traced to the Ticino theater, and lest you've forgotten already, Pavia had earlier been Ticinum. Dices are also "Dyser," and per chance they were of the Deas/Daisy (="son of David") clan that were just linked to daisy-using Margrees/Marjorys. After all, both Margrees and Dices/Dysers were first found in Suffolk. Let's not forget that Irish Davids and English Rods/Rodes use green-on-white trefoils, or that king David built HalyRod House for Margaret's honor.
The 'u' on my keyboard is beside the 'y," and entering "Dyse" just now, I accidentally spelled "Duse" too find green vertical bars on white in the Dutch Doesen/Deusen/Dossen Coat (perhaps the Toshes/MackinToshes apply). The Deas/Daisy Coat is one vertical bar/pale on white!!!
Checking further, a German Dozer/Dauzier Shield was found split into red and white in the same way that the Shield is split in the Piacenza. The Ananes lived at Piacenza. It should be said that the latter Arms uses a small white block on it's red side, for Scottish Pollocks were traced both to Plocks and Blocks (i.e. using blocks) and to the Spanish Beaz/Pelaiz surname...that I thought should link to "Piast" and to "Paisley." Piacenza is also "PIASeinsa in the local dialect of Emiliano-Romagnolo" (caps mine). I recall tracing the Beaz/Pelaiz surname to Piacenza because the place "Modern forms of the name [Piacenza] descend from Latin Placentia."
It can also be said that the Shield in the Arms of Ticino is split in the same way (vertically) as the Dozer and Piacenza Shields, though using red and blue instead of red and white. In other words, Dozers/Dauziers, first found in Bavaria, could be of Ticini origins. Dozers/Dausiers are also shown as "Hausier / D'Hosier," which suggests that the Hosers/Hosmans, also first found in Bavaria, should apply.
Houses (Calvados) use only "cabbage leaves"). By what coincidence is it that the same leaves are used by the Tess/Tease Coat (saltire in colors reversed to the Annandale saltire), where Ticino is also "Tessen"??? It's no coincidence, for the Tess/Tease surname was first found in Switzerland, where the canton of Ticino (using the Arms above) is found. This shows how terms can vary drastically, from "Tessen" to "House," or vice versa.
I say vice-versa because the German Hass/Haesen/Heslin surname was also first found in Bavaria. If per chance the surname is from "Hesse/Hessen, then "Tessen" may have derived from "Hessen," or even the idea of "D'Hessun." In this picture, Esau-ites of Hesse could trace to the Ticini term. Remember, the Catti of Chattan just traced to Alessandria of Piedmont, and then the Hass/Haesen/Heslin surname uses a coney=hare (it's officially a "rampant hare"), a symbol (used also by Conys and Conns) that I trace to Cuneo of Piedmont, smack beside Alessandria. The Cony Crest is a "A Coney holding a pansy." Like the two Howse/House Coats, the Pansy Coat is green and white. Hmm, the Pansy surname uses some Pant variations while Pavia=Ticinum has a Pantaleona (= Panta-Lion) location.
Cuneo had been traced to the Cunn/Queen/Swan/Sweyne/Sween clan on the Isle of Lewis, where the Edomite clan of McClouds/Leods lived. The English Howse/House/Hooser Crest uses a cloud. I assume that they Cunns/Queens/Swans were related to the Swan/Sion/Sweyne clan using the Levi lion. Is that another coincidence, that while Houses now trace to Ticino, where the Laevi lived, that what look like nearby Cuneo elements in a Hessen>House>Tessen bloodline should use the Levi lion? The Ticino river even begins at the Valais-border theater while Sion/Sitten is in Valais.
It's curious that Dunhams also use a dancette. Never before has as cracked egg come to mind as the meaning of a dancette, but the idea needs to be speculative only at this point. A dancette could be code for a Dane-Rus entity such as I think the Dunhams/Dounhams/Downhams were. The Dans Coat uses trefoils too, as does the Davis surname that I think gave birth to Obama. It's conspicuous that the stag of Douns/Downs, because it's white on blue, is now tracing to the Hungarians linked to Gabriel Radomir, for both the Douns/Downs and Dans' were first found in Sussex. But how does the Gabriel-Radomir line link to Dane Rus if not via Sinclairs?
Stop! After writing that, I got to this page on translations of "egg" in many languages. I could not find one 'koki-like term, though I known that some Italian dialects pronounce their egg as, "cock-o." When clicking on the Danish translation of an egg, we get, "egg." Is that not likely from a kok-like term? I did not find "egg" in any other language besides Scandinavian (Icelandics, Norwegians, and Swedes use it too), meaning that the English "egg" is related to the Danish egg.
Obama is now tracing well to the Rod-egg bloodline, for his Dunham line comes from the Singletarys (again, the Singletary antelope is identical in design to the Wheelwright antelope). Not only do Singletarys and Dunhams use the same spear in their Crests, but while Singletarys use martin birds, Dunhams use the mammalian martin. SUSPICIOUS: there are at least four Martin clans using white on blue, the colors also of the Murtons/Mertons.
The Italian Martins use white goats on blue, and the write-up traces to mythical Mars...whom I trace to white-on-blue Moray elements (Dunham-related Randolphs were of Moray elements) from the Mures/Maros, and then back to the Ares cult on the Hebros=Maritsa. In this picture, Martins trace to what I'll call the Rhodope-Kikon egg cult. On this ancient map of Roman Illyricum, the Mures is "Marisus," smacking of the Marici on the Ticino river. The suspicion is that Martins were on the Ticino.
It was after writing the above (i.e. not as part of the reasoning) when I learned that Novara, where Laevi lived, is on the Kikon-like Agogna river. Might this have been the location of mythical Cycnus/Cygnus???
ZOWIE EMAILER PATTERSON (she is from Martins), SEE THIS. After writing the paragraph above and the one below, it was thought to look at the Pavia surname (because the Marici and the Laevi founded Pavia, anciently Ticinum in the Ticini), and there I found...martins (!!!) in the colors of the Rodez lines below. The same type of so-called "footless martins" are used, in white on blue, by the Dickensons that were traced (in the last update) to Ticino elements. I don't know what the symbol is between the Dickenson martins.
The Pavia clan above is English, using variations such as Pavie and Pafey. Although we are not told where the Italian Martins were from, their Shield is blue and red, as is the Italian Pavia Shield of a surname first found in Piedmont (Pavia is close to the Piedmont border, and Novara is in Piedmont). AND LOOK: the Arms of Ticino is nothing but blue and red! As "Pafia" smacks of "Boofima (a goat cult), why do Italian Martins use goats? The latter use white-on-blue scallops, the colors of the Patterson scallops. ALSO, Italian martins use a so-called label, symbol in the Arms of Piedmont.
The Marici came to mind above after dealing with the Marcus variation of the Rodez-related Marks/Marx'...who looked like queen Margaret lines, herself suspect from elements of Gabriel Radomir. Remember here that Radomir was a Bulgarian, and that Rhodope is in modern Bulgaria. The German Martin Coat, using a variation of the Italian Martin Shield, is a gold-on-red lion, same as the English Marks, same as the Rodez Coat.
It was after writing the above that this was found: the Arms of Novara is a white-on-red eagle, symbol also of the German Rods/Roders. Pavia is just south of Novara. The Pavia article calls it "Papia" too, smacking of the Pepins that use a camel just like the Patterson Crest. This would be astounding if Merovingian-branch Pepins end up tracing to Pavia. I'm not forgetting that Merovingians were not only Salian Franks, but Sicambrian Franks thought to be from Sicambria=Budapest in Hungary.
It could be that the Batavi who lived beside/with the Salians (in Holland), and who trace to "Padova," were part of the Sicambrian=Buda Franks. In that case, the Pepins, who are now tracing to northern Italy, to Ticino elements that I linked to Euganeo>Aachen Merovingians (as well as to Andrew-line Hungarians), may have been of the Sicambrian Franks. Pepins proper were from the Aachen theater, and it was they who took power from Merovingian kings and gave it to Carolingians...who ruled at Aachen. The Pepins gave power specifically to Charles Martel, a martin-like term if ever we saw one. Heraldic martins are also martlets.
We then find that Pavers use a band of checks, as do two Mark Coats, making some sense of the Mark-surname trace to the Marici of Pavia. Pavers were first found in Yorkshire and use blue-on-white (lozenges), colors of the Yorkshire Hallams/Hallands and MalCalams. As I trace the latter to Helen, born to the Leda egg, it's conspicuous that I traced "LOZENge" to the Lotan/Ladon term cult i.e. which included Leda. The idea presents itself that lozenges, portrayed as diamonds, may have been eggs before taking on the lapis-lazuli idea of a gemstones. That is, a diamond-lozenge is slightly in the shape of an egg, and then "ovum" is similar to "oval," the shape of the egg.
Hmm, was the Leda egg cult in Euganeo? Was Aachen an egg-line location?? Or, as entering "Egg" brings up the white-on-blue and blue-on-white Egans/Eggen(er)s with a write-up tracing to "Edgar," let's not forget that Margaret, who is being traced to the egg cult as we read, was a sister of Edgar Aetheling. It was emailer Patterson who got me onto the Euganeo topic as per a tip on the Auger surname (see "Auger" at the end of the 4th update of August, which topic was emphasized in the last update). The Auger motto included "agendo," what I thought should be code for Euganeo and/or Egan bloodlines.
The Egg/Egan Coat uses blue roundels, officially called "hurt" or "berry." The hurt term could be code for the hurts of the hurt-like Arthur surname, first found in bear-depicted Berwickshire. And of course the hurt term is still suspect as a Herod line. As we're tracing lines from the Maritsa river to the Marici of Pavia, what about Arda on that river, or the fact that the Menelaus-based Spartans had their Orestae branch in the Arda theater?
The Edgar/Eger/Eager Coat is a white-on-black lion, same colors as the Stock lion. The latter were just linked to Ananes-related Wheelwrights, and by now we remember that Wheelwrights are the Rad/Rademacher egg line somehow linked to Gabriel Radomir. but also, we just traced the egg line to the Marici neighbors of the Laevi. In fact, we saw that one Martin Coat uses the Patterson scallops, which is good reason to mention the Patterson lion, which happens to be the Edgar/Eager lion design in colors reversed! I have always wanted to know where that Patterson lion traces in particular. Edgars/Eagers were first found in Berwickshire, where the egg-related Ares>arca=ursus Rus-bear cult is now traced.
The Pepins who gave power to Carolingians were from Landon, and then we find bears in the Landon Coat. The Landon Coat compares with the Alesander/Alexander Coat, important because there is a province of Alessandria in Piedmont, smack beside Pavia. AlessANDRIA is also beside the Savona province of Liguria. On the map at the above link, we find a Gavi location next to Ovada, and closer still to Alessandria there the Montferrat region and a Sale location.
I did not know about the Gavi location, nor had I seen the Alessandria article/map, when tracing queen Margaret to Gavril Radomir's marriage. The Alesander/Alexander write-up tends to trace to Alexander, Margaret's son. How can it be coincidental that Margaret's David line traced to Desmonds using the saltire that I typically trace to Ananes Gauls, and the motto term that I now trace to Butteri?? It very much appears that the Gavril-Radomir line, and that of king Andrew, was in Alessandria. The Agogna river flows through Novara of the Laevi, ending at the Po=Bodencus near the Alessandria border in Pavia province. The Ananes lived (in Piacenza/Piaseinsa) across the Po from there. Note that the Arms of Piacenza are red and white (and features what looks like a blue-on-white wolf), the colors of the Annandale Coat.
This Ananes article tells that they likely lived between the Trebia and Tarus (= Taro) tributaries of the Po (both are on the south side of the Po. The article suggests that the Ananes were also Anamari," perhaps an Ana combo with the Marici.
We already know that Scottish Pattersons were first found in Hungarian elements of Ross-shire, which makes the clan connect-able to the Radomir egg line already. Irish Patterson write-up: "First found in Connacht [Stock elements of Caen?], where it belonged to one of the eight Sodhans. The Sodhans were septs which were located in the Hy Many (Ui Maine) country, but whose ancestors were not of that group." Remember, emailer Patterson is also of the Hall bloodline that she traces well to Hallands, and then mythical Helen was married to Menelaus, code for the (Many-like) Mani peninsula (Sparta) and its Las/Laas location. Moreover, as evidence that Pattersons of Hy Many elements link to Edgar/Eger lion, the Edgars/Eagers use the motto, "Man do it."
That could be code for the Hy Many, but then let's not forget that Daphne on the Ladon river was sister to Manto, and it just so happens that Manto (i.e. who smacks of "Man do it") was traced anciently to Mantua, also MantOVA (smacking of Manto elements merged with ova=egg). Mantua is not far along the Po valley from the Laevi and Ananes.
Mantua was depicted by mythical Mantus and his wife, Mania. In the Mantus article: "A dedication to the god mano from the Archaic period was found in a sanctuary at Pontecagnano...Elsewhere in Etruria, the god was called Suri, probably to be identified with Soranus." Clicking to the Soranus article: "The worshippers of Apollo Soranus, after his cult had been subsumed by Apollo, were called Hirpi Sorani ("wolves of Soranus", from Sabine hirpus "wolf"). They were firewalkers and carried about the entrails of the victims during ceremonies." It just so happens that the Hirpini peoples, whom I traced to Arpi (city in eastern Italy due east of the Hirpini), lived in Campania, where the above-named Pontecagnano location sits. Apollo's Avellino (ova term?) location is in Campania, and Apollo's mother, Leto, was depicted as a wolf.
In Roman myth, the wolf-depicted Romulus merged with Mars to form the Romans. We get it, that the Hirpini-Apollo cult (that led to ova-like Avalon) merged with Marsi Italians. I'm of course thinking that the Marici were a Marsi branch, and as Marsi lived in Sabine territory, so we find that Soranus is a Sabine god.
It wasn't but an hour before coming to the Soranus article that I was struggling to identify the so-called "disc" of the Italian Martins. That disc is what looks like a woolpack between the goats of the Martin Coat. Woolpacks are uses by Wolfleys/Wooleys, and I suspect that "woolpack" is code for "wolfpack." But woolpacks are also used by Patterson-related Kilpatricks, and the latter call them, "cushions," a code that I link to the Cussane variation of Irish Pattersons. The point is, the Soranus article: "Soranus was identified with Dis, the Roman god of the underworld, or with Apollo..." Mantus was likewise a god of the underworld.
As there is no Disc or Disk surname coming up, or anything at all of the like, might the Martin "disc" be code for mythical Dis? After all, the disc is in the Italain Martin Coat.
WOOOO-OVA! After writing that, what could be done but to enter "Dis." The white-on-blue crossed swords of the Gabes/Gabers came up!!! [The day after writing this, I was on the Dice>Duce>Dausier topic (tracing Dozers/Dousiers to the Ticini), and found the crossed swords of the Toze/Tose/Tause Coat. The German Doz/Dosser Coat uses a swan, by the way; they are said to be of the Dose river in East Friesland.
In the last update: "German Gabes/Goebs and English Gabes/Gabbers/Gablers (both use crossed swords, symbol of BritoMARTIS of Crete)..."!!!
The Toze surname was first found in Somerset, where the Tara/Taras surname was first found. The latter is in the colors of the Turans/Tourraines of Savoy and Turins/Torns, and smacks of the Tarus/Taro river on/beside which the Ananes lived. The Turins/Torns were first found in Aberdeen, where the Cony-using Conns (i.e. potential Cuneo elements) were first found. It's not likely coincidental that lattice-using Caens/Canns were first found in Dorset, where the Tarans were first found. Turin of Piedmont of course comes to mind. The Cunns/Queens/Sweenes/Swans (which could trace to a Cuneo-and-Savona swan bloodline) use a wolf, symbol of Piacenza, where the Ananes lived. One or more of these similar surnames could link to mythical Turan of Tuscany for the following reason, and keep in mind that the Cunn/Queen/Sween surname is said to derive in "Shuibhne".
There are no surname variations listed in the Dis Coat page, but the clan was first found in Tuscany, which was also Etruria, where the Soranus write-up leads us: "Soranus was a Sabine god adopted into ancient Roman religion. He was worshipped on Mt. Soracte in Etruria."
As we saw that Pepins (traced tentatively to Papia>Pavia) use the Patterson camel, see that the German Gabes/Goebs, who use the same crossed swords as the mystery Dis clan, show the Pepin horse. [This paragraph was written before finding Gavi, and besides that I have a strong feeling that Pepins do trace to "Pavia."]
I now recall that Halls and Hulls use the Pape/Papen talbots, and that Hall(and)s were linked to Pappenheims (Bavaria). Note that checks (used by Marks and Pavers) are used alone in the Scottish Pape Coat. The latter Papes were first found in Caithness, where the Norwegian Halland nobles had titles. The Italian Pappa surname was first found in Piedmont, where Novara is located.
As per the Gavi location in Piedmont's Alessandria province, there is an Italian Gavi surname (Moor head) first found in Genoa (Liguria). Dutch Gavi/Gaafs/Gaferts use the same two colors so that Gaffer- / Giffer-like surnames could apply. After writing that, three black on white talbots, the colors of the Pape talbots, came up in the Guff/Goff/Gafert Coat!!! It suggests exactly what was suspected, that Papes were of the Pepins from Pavia/Papia near and related to the namers of Gavi.
I searched "fact" in order to find the clan that used a factis-like motto term, because the Guffs/Goffs use one, and eventually came across this sentence in the last update: "There is now cause to trace Jeffersons to the Coffees et-al that were traced to "Kiev" Varangians. In fact, the Goffins/Coffins use a raven, symbol of Varangians that conquered from northern Scotland into Rothesay=Bute." The Goffins/Coffins are the Guffs/Goffs, and so that's where I likely saw the factis term. I can now add that Jeffersons use the Guff/Goff colors and their gold-on-blue besants. This can mean that the entire slew of surnames that I've linked to Coffees may be from the Gavi entity.
The Arms of Alessandria show griffins, the symbol also in the two Jeffer/Jefferson Coats. The Arms includes a "levat" motto term that I so not think is coincidental.
Moreover, while Jeffersons use a leopard head, Guffs/Goffs/Coffins use "factis praemia" i.e. smacking of the Paramas entity of the Boofima>Baphomet cult out of Africa...which the Gavi/Gavirati Moor head may secretly represent. I recall going to the Covert and Coffin surnames when on the Coffee topic. and Coverts/Cofferts (martins) also use a leopard head. The Pape-related Guffs/Goffs are also "Goffart" and "Goffin." The Giffards/Giverds (gold rooster, Sinclair-Crest symbol) should apply because their "Malo mori" phrase was found (in the Paine surname) to be code for the Malahule>D'Espaines line, a Sinclair-Rus line traced to the Altmuhl river...where the Pappenheims were eventually found.
Gabrielle (Gabby) Giffords comes to mind. She's the Democrat who survived what should have been a fatal head wound. And speaking of such a wound, I don't believe that the anti-Christ will actually suffer a fatal head wound only to be resurrected to the inspiration of the masses. Revelation 13 says that one of his seven heads suffered a head wound, to be revived with the masses all in giddy wonder. The resurrection therefore must concern whatever the seven heads depict. Rome. The phoenix arising.
The question coming to mind is whether the Sinclair rooster is a symbol of the egg line that traces logically to mythical Cycnus/Cygnus the swan. Remember, the Agogna river, a term like "Cygnus," flows past Novara, into Pavia, and ends almost smack at the city of Alessandria on the eastern side of the Alessandria-province border. On the map at the Alessandria province, what is that Cantalupo Ligure (near Gavi) doing on the eastern side of Alessandria? There is another Cantalupo in the Imperia part of in Liguria that was linked suggestively (2nd update August) to the Candy/Candida line of the Sinclairs. Now I find this Cantalupo Ligure very near Gavi, the latter location apparently linking to the Sinclair-related Giffards. Moreover, Cantalupo Ligure is near the mouth of the Agogna river now being entertained as the Leda>Cygnus egg-line that the Sinclair rooster may depict. I'm not forgetting that I identified the Norwegian Hallands as Sinclair blood, and that Hallands trace to egg-line Hellen.
Emailer Patterson, when investigating the Halland bloodline, found three surnames (including the Duffs of Morgan-Bute elements) using a red-on-gold lion, which is also the symbol of the Ley/Legh Coat that I trace to Ligurians and even to the personal lion of Ranulf le Meschin (whose father's side leads back to the Malahule>D'Espaines line). The French Marcus' also use this lion, and they, along with the Marks above, were first found in Dauphine and Languedoc, the ancient Ligurian theater. That theater was majorly at Lacydon / Marseille, and although I traced Marseille to the Marsi, the Marsi are suspect as the Marici of Pavia. It just so happens that I traced the roots of the Boofima cult -- mythical Marsyas - to the Marsi>Marseille line, meaning that we shouldn't be surprised to find Baphomet elements along the Marici>Mark lines. The other point is that, in the picture of this paragraph, the Helen-egg line is predicted to go through the Marici of Pavia, not forgetting that Helen was married to the golden-fleece bloodline (of Menelaus) going back to Marsyas the goat-skinning (= fleecing) symbol. It was Apollo the wolf that skinned Marsyas, and it was Apollo that was linked to the Dis cult.
The Boofima were of an African Imperi entity that should trace to Imperia of Liguria, and that makes the CantaLupo locations suspect, not to mention the Moor-head symbol of the Sinclair Rus. You get it, that the Sinclair Mood head could be a Boofima-cult symbol for the Candys/Candidas of Cantalupo elements. Recalling that some Mark/Marx surnames appeared to link to "Margaret" of the Gavril-Radomir lines of the Laevi / Ananes theater, we could expect the Marks / Margs in Gavi neighborhoods if the latter was named after Gavril elements. The point is, the Candy surname was first found in Suffolk, where the Margree and Dice surnames were first found. The Dices/Dyses (using torteaus, symbol of Tortona) were traced to the Ticino river running through Pavia, near Tortona.
How close is Montferrat to all of this? It's very near Alessandria, and therefore very near Pavia, meaning that the Marici, if they were Baphomet elements, should link to Montferrat, for I trace the latter to dragon-line Veres = Baphomet lovers. The French Mark Coat uses blue and white checks, the colors of the checks that make up the Fer/Ferrat Coat.
Let's not forget the Mars/Maures/Meres (Burgundy), said to be derived in "ram" (should be code for the golden fleece ram), which is in the gold and blue colors of the Mores/Muirs/Moors. The last time we encountered blue and gold was on the Coffin / Jefferson topic that started with, and seemed to link to, the same-colored Gavi surname. I now find that the More/Muir/Moor Coat uses the same-colored stars as the Italian Gavi Chief while it's the Gavi Coat using a Moor head!!! It's the same Moor head as per the German More/Mohr/Moor Coat.
The Moretons use goats in one Coat and nearly the Gifford-rooster design in their Scottish Moreton Crest. The latter clearly link to Myres/Meres.
Jeffersons use a "salus" motto term while Mores/Muirs/Moors use "Duris," both codes for the Salyes Ligurians. Irish Mores (same as the Morgan and Duff Coats), first found in Liguria-based Leicestershire, use the "a-bu" term that traces from the Salyes to Morgan-Bute elements. Again, the Jefferson griffin is now suspect as the Arms-of-Alessandria griffin, and Gavi is in Alessandria.
Belgian Gabbers/Gebels suggested the Cabala cult. Entering "Cabel" brought up the lattice design that I trace to Cottians (the Candy / Candid theater), and an "Impavide" motto, which could be an Imperia-Pavia combination term. Just a minute before loading the Gabber/Gabel Coat, the Gabriel Coats were viewed again, noting the "label" of French Gabriels (symbol in the Arms of Piedmont) and a write-up tracing to Caen (Normandy). The Caen Coat also uses a lattice (in French-Gabriel colors), a "Perimus licitis" motto (evoking Imperia and Paramas all at once), and leopard heads. There can be no doubt about it that Caens/Canns trace to Boofima.
Again, Caens should trace to "Cuneo" where Montferrat is found. If it's correct to trace the rabbit=Coney-using Conns and Conys to Cuneo, what about easter eggs? It is argued by some that easter eggs had their root in the ancestor god, Rod, who was portrayed with eggs. But how did easter eggs acquire the rabbit symbol? By what easterincidence is it that Cuneo borders Asti province??? On the map at the Asti link, one sees "Montferrat" written right across the Asti province. Recalling that the Butes/Butts use the Est horse and an estoile, what about the Butigliera location in Asti?
What about the MontCALVO location smacking of Calvados, where the Caen location was at?
As per Canelli of Asti province, what about the Cannel/Connel surname's "agus" motto term, smacking of egg (let's not forget Euganeo beside Este)? It just so happens that the Cannels/Connells use the MacCarthy-of-Muskerry stag, now tending to trace Muskerry elements to Cuneo along with the Connells: "First found in County Limerick where O'Connell was the chief of Hy-Cuilean...in the barony of Upper Connello near the borders of Cork and Kerry...In the twelfth century the O'Connells settled in Kerry. One reference claims that the O'Falvies, admirals of Desmond ; the O'Connells, of Kerry; O'Sheas, chiefs of Muskerry, in Cork; and several other chiefs, claim descent from the Clan na Deaga, Chiefs of Munster, originally a branch of the Heremonians of Ulster."
You haven't forgotten from earlier in this update that Desmond-of-Muskerry elements had linked to the Margaret>David line...that also links to the Piedmont theater. The Irish Davis were prime suspects of that line, and the Irish Davis Coat uses the green-on-white trefoils used also by Cannels/Connells. At this point, I feel compelled to venture a link between Obama's invisible bosses (the ones who are running his presidency and calling for more stimulus money to the tune of a half trillion as of this past week) and Muskerry elements.
LOOK ZOWZERS! The MacCarthy and Canel/Connell stag is used also in a (Plant)agenet Crest (the Coat uses another label), and "genet" is therefore suspect as Euganeo elements. It was the Augers who use a similar "agendo" motto term. The Augur motto is used exactly by the (McLeod sept of Lures, and so not that both Lures and Plant(agenet)s use red roses. Doesn't the Lure Coat remind of the More/Muir/Moor Coat...that was just linked to the Gavi Coat!
I'll bet you a dozen that "Gavi" links to an egg term, for I feel confident that the Gavi location traces to Gavril Radomir, whom I suspect is of the Rod-and-Rozanica egg cult. Previous to the Plantagenet and Lure roses, roses were found in this update only in the Languedoc Margarets/Marquets and "Jewish" Marks/Marx'. Are not Obama's invisible bosses Communists? Obama's father, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist (if you don't agree with me that Frank Davis was Obama's father, he was yet intimately involved in the life of Obama's mother, and he was the "Frank" that Obama wrote about in "Dreams of my Father." Communistic dreams, right? Obama wants to fulfill Communistic dreams for America.
The Welsh Maurice/Morrice/Morys Coat uses lions in the colors of English Marks, first found in Wales=related CornWALL. The Maurice/Morys Crest ("falcon") looks like the Rod(h)am tree stump. The Maurice surname is said to be Round-Table important, and is traced to "Morys ap Morgan," suspect as elements of Morgan-le-Fay (Bute). Yes, for the Welsh Merik surname (thanks to FE, this latter clan was linked to Richard Amerike, supposed founder of "America") not only uses Botter colors, but a sea horse, symbol of in the Arms of Budva/Butua. I've come a long way since last emphasizing Richard Amerike, and so this trace of Meriks to Bute elements -- what was suggested then too -- can now be proved thereby. PLUS, ZOWIE, as I recently traced Hereford to Herzegovina, i.e. in the Budva/Butua theater, note that the Welsh Maurice/Morys surname was first found in Herefordshire!!! The Merik write-up traces to "Mauritius=Maurice/Morice." The Arms of Richard Amerike used blue and white too, as well as red and gold stripes like the Camerons.
How can it be coincidental that while Richard Amerike was involved in John Cabot's American voyages that French Cabots/Shabbots use the Keon / Kane fish that I trace to the Saracas beside Butua? The Cabots use the fish in Andrea and Stacy/Stasey colors, and like Andreas, they were first found in Provence. The Spanish Capet Coat uses the same colors, and then the English Capets use scallops, the symbol in the English Cabot Crest. Spanish Capets were first found in Aragon, and the Arms of Aragon, like the related Arms of Roussillon, are red and white stripes i.e. like the stripes of Richard Amerike. The commonality between Roussillon and Aragon is that both were a part of what was Catalonia, a term smacking of Katun/Katalin Anastazya.
Speaking of Irish Keons and Kanes/Keans, the odd-colored Merik sea horse is used by Irish Cohens/Coynes (a bar/bend in colors reversed to the Botters)...showing variations that could link back to Cuneo elements. English Botters use a falcon, the Maurice/Morys symbol. That traces to Velch/Volci, where Butteri lived, and to the Fulks who, like the Fers/Ferrats, use a Coat filled with Cohen-colored checks. If Fulks were in Montferrat and Asti, it explains why Plantagenets trace to Cuneo.
Montferrat is on the Tanaro river, and then we find Moor heads once again in the Tanner/Tannor Coat. Earlier in this update, the Fallis/Faletti surname was traced tentatively to the Ticini-river clans of Arpad importance, and it just so happens that the Conqueror-Sinclair's mother was a daughter of the so-called "tanner of Falaise." Might that have been code? After all, why would someone so elite as the Conqueror marry the daughter of merely a tanner?
The flag of Montferrat (see Tanaro link above) is just a red Chief on a blank white Shield. Blank Shields are comparatively rare in heraldry, yet the Tanner/Tannor Coat is a blank white Shield (with a Chief showing the Moor heads).
Fulks of the Montferrat theater were likely at Butigliera of Asti, a term meaning "bottle." The Bottle/Butil/Boothill surname traces to "Poitiers," a Butteri entity in my opinion. Remember, Montaults (of the Maud/Montalto clan) were heavy in the Poitiers theater, and while Maud of Brittany married a Gaunt of Fulk-like Folkingham, empress Matilda married the first Plantagenet. The Montault Coat, three red bars on a white Shield, smacks of the Arms of Gavi (not to mention the Arms of Cuneo). Although the Maud/Montalto surname does not identify which Mont Alto it was from, Wikipedia's Mont Alto page shows one at Turin, one at Imperia, and another in Pavia.
The Fulks are known to descend directly from Ingelger, son of quasi-mythical TORTulle/TORTulf and his wife, Petronilla (smacks of "Butterello" at Euganeo). Tortona is then beside Montferrat (I'm not at all convinced yet of a Tortona-Tortulle link, but one never knows at this point). The Arms of Templar Jerusalem are those of the Arms of Anjevins. In that article: "The first documented member of the Angevins was an obscure 9th century Frankish nobleman named Ingelger..." In Wikipedia's Montferrat article we read that rulers of Montferrat were Templars. Ingelger and/or Tortulle are said to have been born in a Rennes location of Anjou. The Arms of Tortona use a white-on-red lion, the color of the Montfort lion...that I traced to Montferrat and Monforte of Cuneo.
Dunham-related Butlers are said to derive in a term for "bottle." The Bottle/Butil-Crest leopard (uses a version of the Danish Bauer leopard) is identical in design to the Gilbert>Gibbs leopard. The Baphomet cult is led today by a GilMORE surname that could link to Gilberts, the whole lot of them to Ligurian-related Gauls of Provence and northern Italy. The "battle axes" (code for Bottle clans?) of the Gibbs (in Scottish Danner/Daniels colors) are identical in design to the axes of the (Tanner-like) Danners/Denners/Danes. In this picture, the Danish side of the Conqueror-Sinclair was on the Tanaro river through Monteferrat.
Years ago, I had traced Ingelger to Harcourt-line Danes in Torcy/Torville. Harcourts use more red and white bars. The Harcourt motto uses "viendra," what should be code for Vannes, Brittany, and the Mackay sept of Vains/Veins/Veyns (= Vannes elements) that I link to Waynes/Weins. While the latter use a "tempus" motto term, Harcourts use "temp." We are surely dealing here with the Sinclair Danes. The Macey metal gloves and Vannes-based ermines of the Waynes speaks to me of the Lake-Van elements that I traced from Mus of Lake Van to Muskerry. Mus at lake Van was also called, Tarun.
The "Tenax" motto term of the Gibbs has got to be code for the Moor-related Guiscards, known to be Sinclairs from TANCreds, who are in turn TANKervilles from TANERdevilla (Normandy). This tends to trace the Danner-related Gibbs to Gavi because Monteferrat is partly in Alessandria (where Gavi is located). "The Tanaro flows past the towns Ceva, Alba, Asti and Alessandria before entering the Po near Bassignana in the Province of Alessandria."
Bassignana is close to Tortona (anciently "Derthona/Terdona"). Hmm, the Dart/Darth Coat smacks of the Wayne Coat's ermines, and we may assume that Tortulle and Ingelger, because they were from a Rennes location in Anjou, traced to Rennes of Brittany, which had been linked (bu me) to the Raines / Ragen surnames i.e. including/from Ragnvald>Rollo Sinclairs. Darts/Darths were first found in Devon, and the Moline/Moulin write-up: "First found in at Dartington, in Devon, as well as twenty-nine other lordships throughout England. William of Moulins, Sire de Falaise, Lord of Moulins in 1030, in Normandy, uncle of William the Conqueror..." Didn't we just mention the tanner of Falaise and trace him suggestively to the Dane/Daner-like Tanaro river?
"[Bassignana's] first inhabitants of whom there is written news belonged to the Ligurian tribe of the Marici (Ligures): they had crossed the Pennine...and had settled south of the Po river, in the area between Stradella and Casale Monferrato. Such people were closely linked to that of the Levi, who had settled further north: the founding of Ticinum, the modern Pavia, is attributed to the Levi and to the Marici. "
Then, as per the Christo-pagan practice of naming Christian saints as codes for pagan elements, we read: "A bishopric was founded at Tortona early, but its first bishops are purely legendary, like Saint Marcianus of Tortona, called the first bishop of Piedmont and a disciple of Barnabas, the companion of Paul." Isn't it rather true that "Marcianus" was chosen as code for the Marici Ligurians?
As the Marcys/Marsielles are in the colors of the two March Coats, the Marsh surname is suspect, especially as Marcys are also "Marshaye." The Nimmo/Newmarch/Newmarsh surname came to mind, and it uses a red-on-gold saltire, the colors of the Andrea and Stacy saltires, but also reflecting the Annandale saltire (important because the Anastazya and Andrew lines were traced to Ananes, not forgetting that Anastazya was wife to Gavril Radomir). The Nimmo/Newmarch cinquefoils should link to the Tankerville-of-TANERdeville cinquefoils because Guiscards were first found in Stirlingshire, where the Nimos/Newmarshes were first found.
We could of course ask whether the Nimo variation of what are properly Marshes and Marches is from Templar-sacred Nimrod elements, and it does seem to pan out.
The Nimmo/Newmarch cinquefoils are in the gold color of the Boast-surname cinquefoils, and then the Nimmo/Newmarch motto uses "boast." The same motto also uses "show," and then the Show surname is properly "Schauer/Schorr," using crescents, another symbol in the Nimmo/Newmarch Coat. We then find that Shores/Sures ("holly leaves") use "Perimus licitis," the same Boofima-related motto as the (Cuneo-suspect) Caens/Canns. It's a good bet that, in Freemasonry, the Boofima cult traces to Nimrod.
To help prove that Shores/Sures link to the Nimmo-related Schauers/Schorrs, the Shores/Sures use a Stork holding a stone, while the Stone Coat uses the gold-on-red cinquefoils used also by the Nimmo Coat. Stones were first found in Cornwall, where the English Marks were first found, and that jibes with the trace of the Nimmos/NewMarches now being made to the Marici.
As Stones link to the Tancred line if the Nimmos/Newmarches do (I think they do), what about the trace of the Tankervilles of-TANERdeville to the Tanaro river with a mouth near Pavia/Ticinum? The Stone Shield is split vertically red and blue, the same exactly as the Arms of Ticino. How is it that Tortona is beside Pavia/Ticinum while torteaus are used also by the Swedish Steens??? Compare with German Rhodes/Rodes. The Rothschild/Rothstein surname is also the Rodstein Coat.
I swear to you that I did not know what the Aston motto was (even though I've seen it many times) when I thought to write the following. It occurred to me that the Ishtar star used by Rothschilds/Rothsteins/Rodsteins should suggest a "Stone / Stein", and even a "stork," link to Ishtar-based surnames. The Ashtons and Astons came to mind as per "Stone," and while it's Esau-interesting that Ashtons use a black boar, Astons (in Ashton colors) us a "Numine" motto term!!! How could it not be by an act of God in my mind (I didn't feel anything of an experience in particular) that I should think of a Stone link to Astons immediately after the Nimrod>Nimmo topic above, while the Ishtar star is used by a Rod-like as well as a Stein surname??
Can we see that Shores using a stork could have been Ashtors/Astors of sorts?
As the Boofima cult was just traced to the Marsyas>Marseille>Marici line (that trace was made before the Marcy/Marseille Coat was found), so the "Perimus" motto term was traced to that cult, meaning that the Shores who use it, and the related Stones, should trace to Baphomet. That should explain why English Steins use leopard heads while German Steins use a goat. Shock and Awe. Dutch Steins/Steens also use the Ishtar star (in the colors of the same in the Rothschild/Rodstein Coat), but also a red rose, symbol of the Marici-like Marks and Margarets. Remember, one Rod/Roder Coat uses the lion colors of the English-Mark lion.
Astounding! At the very end of that paragraph, I was wondering about links to the Margree surname and therefore to the Wheelwrights-et al because the Margree Coat has been deemed a version of the Wheelwright Coat. But I decided not to get into that, and instead entered "Stoner" to continue the Stone>Stein investigation. And there was another Wheelwright- and Margree-like Coat!
MORE ASTOUNDING. The same style Shield, in Astor / Ashtor colors, is used by the Store Coat!!! There are storks on that Shield!!!!! This style Shield is called "counterchanged," or a pale counterchanged.
Of course Freemasons would tend to link the Asher surname to the Asher tribe of Israel, but it clearly links instead to the Ishtar clans under discussion, for the German Asch/Asher Coat uses a white-on-red triple chevron, same as the Singletarys, while the latter use the Wheelwright antelope. A triple chevron is used also by the Levi surname, and as Laevi lived on the Ticino, what about the "Duce" motto term of the Aschs/Ashers? Amazingly, I didn't see the Duce/Douse Coat until after linking the English Ashers to the Sturs/Esturmies/Easters/Isters/Astors (see how-so below).
The Duce/Douse Coat uses the Kent-surname lions (almost the Levi-lion design) in Anders colors, but then the same lion design is used by the Esturmys/Stormys. The Anders will figure large when I get to the English Ashers.
I'm keeping in mind here that Actons, though first found in Cheshire, were from Axton in Kent, while the Acton Coat is used by Astburys (I think Actons/Axtons were Astons). If that's not enough, I trace Obama to Cheshire by his Dunham and Randolph surnames, by his Davis surname, and by his Paine and Wolfley lines too. Astburys were first found in Cheshire, that is, and they use the same martins (even in the same colors) as the Singletarys who founded Obama's Dunham line.
Some of you may recall that I traced the Cheshire capital, at one time called, Deva, to Cheshire DAVENports (in Aston and Ashton colors) who were from Astbury, Cheshire. But I also traced Davenports and Deva elements to Devon, as I did the Dunham/Downham/Dounham-related Down/Doun surname using the black Ashton star. Astons were first found in Cheshire too, but also in Lancashire, where Ashtons were first found,and then Actons use an "avance" motto term translated as "advance," while Speers of Renfrew, who trace to Vere elements in Rennes of Brittany, use "Advance." Moreover, Actons use "vaillance," smacking of mythical Lancelot that I trace confidently to Lancashire, and, as per Ban, Lancelot's father, to the Bannes/Banes surname using a triple chevron in colors reversed to the same of the Singletarys.
The Ash/Esse surname was first found in Devon, and it uses nearly the Levi chevrons. There are simply too many apparent links between Ishtar-like clans and the Laevi to be ignored here. Astleys use another "tenax" motto term that was just traced to the Tanaro river, beside the Ticino to which the Duce-using Aschs/Ashers are tracing.
The Ash/Esse surname was in an Esse location of Devon, and then the German Esse/Hesse surname is of the Hessians whom I trace tentatively both to Esau and to the re-naming of Cheshire's capital from Deva to Chester. Therefore, let's not forget the black boar of the Cheshire-related Ashtons, noting too that Astons use lozenges as does the German Hessen surname. German Esses/Hesses use a sun, as do the English Asts/Hasts.
Now to the English Ashers...who were traced to Esturmys moments before seeing the Duces/Douses that happened to trace to the same. I therefore did not know at the time that both Duces and Ashers were first found in Staffordshire. English Ashers/Pashers use what could be the Anders saltire that I trace confidently to the Annan(dale) saltire. The Asher write-up: "Hence, conjecturally, the surname is descended from the tenant of the lands in that shire. A John ap'Asser was canon of St David's in 1218 from which we they get the surnames Passer and Pasher."
The Pass'/Pash's/Pascals, using the Levi lion in the same colors, and a cross in the same colors as the Annan(dale) saltire, come to mind. French Pascals were first found in Dauphine, the entity to which I trace Daphne's Devon>Deva>Davenport elements. But then it's likely that Pascals (using what is said to be the Passover=Easter lamb) were Easters (another label) too...who use half of the Annan(dale) saltire. The Easters are clearly the Esturmy/Sturs/Esturs to which the Duces also traced (German Ashers use "Duce").
At the top of this update, it was suggested that this Aston and Astor topic could link to "Ashot," the Armenian Bagratid at the root of the king-Andrew line. At that time, it was suggested that the Schauers/Schorrs sound like the Nazi-spy family, the Scherffs. Not only did I enter "Sherriff" at that time to find an "Esse" motto term (amazing "coincidence"), but a couple of days ago I was led by a massive online investigation to the Scheriff surname. Entering "George Scheriff" got a man (age 72) who lived in four places (Hicksville, Bohemia, Seldon and Oakville) all in the same general spot (Suffolk and Nassau counties) of Long Island, New York. Then, entering "George Scherff" (without the 'i') gets a man (117 years old, i.e. passed away) from Haverstraw, in New York very near Long Island.
The Sherriff Coat, using red roses like the German Scher(f) Coat (looks like a version of the German Walker/Walcher Coat), is in the colors of the Austrian Scherr Shield. Both Sheriffs and English Walkers use a "quam" motto term, and two Walker Coats use red and gold stripes, the symbol of the Camerons (with Rothschild arrows that I trace to Hungarian roots) who show a SORlies variation (i.e. they were of the Sorleys/Surleys/Sourlys). I'm not convinced (yet anyway) that "Sorley" derived in "Somerled."
As I've said before, Scottish Walkers use the same saltire as Irish Kilpatricks/Sherras (Levi lion in Crest), while Scottish Kilpatricks use a "sure" motto term that brings up the Shores with stork and "Perimus" motto term. Entering "Sheer" brings up a clan first found in Surrey and using the Davenport crosslets, important because Davenports also use the same chevron as the Sures/Shores. Then, Davenports use a "Fear" motto term, same as the Irish Hares/Garrys who use a green lizard, another symbol in the Kilpatrick/Sherra Crest. If that's not enough to make the link, the Hare/Garry Crest shows a green snake, symbol of Austrian Scherrs. The snake in the latter Coat is entwined around a rod, symbol of Armenians, important because the theory is that Astons et-al trace back to the same Ishtar bloodline after which Ashot the Armenian was named.
The Cameron write-up: "The Cameron Clan was described as 'Fiercer than fierceness itself' and it was reputed to be one of the most ancient clans of Scotland. The hereditary name of the chiefs of the Clan is MacDhomnuill Duibh, from their ancestor 'Black Donald'...The Camerons are said to have traditionally descended from the Kings of Denmark..." To me, this write-up tracing to the MacDhomnuills=MacDonalds speaks of the Dumnonii (Edomites?) Danann of Devon and Somerset, or the proto-Danes. The "Fiercer than fierceness" looks like code (or vice versa) for the "Fear" term of Hares/Garrys and Davenports.
The Deans/Denns appear to apply to this Danann>Dane line because Irish Deans/Denes use the Hare/Garry lizard, as well as a "diffilcule" motto term that I trace to Dubhs=Duffs (both Camerons and Duffs were in Angus). Deans/Denes also use the "nihil" motto (code for Neils/Nihills) term used by Veres, and the "Fear" motto term must therefore be code for Veres / Fers.
"DiffiCULE" looks like part-code for Gudbrand KULE of what I call the Norwegian-Halland bloodline, and then English Deans/Denns (MacDonald colors) use the round-tailed lion (colors reversed to the Duff lion) that I traced to that same Halland and/or Sinclair bloodline. The mane of both this round-tailed lion and that of the Levi lion both fall peculiarly to the left side of the lion's face. The English Dean/Dene motto is the same as the Banes' motto (I trace Banes' to Lancelot and his Excalibur symbol), which honors king Arthur), wherefore that may be the Excalibur sword in the Dean/Dene Coat. It was my impression (years ago) that the Excalibur sword was code for (C)Halybes and Exeter together, Exeter being a major city of the Devon Dumnonni.
The Deans/Denes (Hastings colors) were first found in Sussex, where the Ast/Hast-like Hastings were first found. The Sinclair Dano-Norwegians founded their English empire at Hastings in Sussex, and as Hastings was one of the Cinqueport cities, what are those cinquefoils, in Hastings and Dean/Dene colors, doing in the ArDENES Coat??? What follows is amazing.
I had traced the Ardenes/Ardons/HARDons to the "Arthur" surname, for the latter's Irish branch uses "hurts" (blue roundels) on organ rests in the gold on red colors of the Ardenes/Hardons. We are now on what could be Herod-bloodline Edomites. Not only were Ardens first found in Warwickshire, where Sherriffs were first found, but, although the Hastings call their symbol a "man's red sleeve," I've seen the same symbol called a "scarf," what must therefore be code for the Scherffs, Scheriffs, and Sherriffs.
Entering "Scarf" brings up Scarff and Scharf variations, and uses the Clapton wolf head. I know for a fact that the Arthur symbol was used also by the Hicks of Clapton, Somerset, for Hicks and Arthurs were married there (I'm not forgetting Hicksville of Long Island where that Scheriff surname was found). And so here we are back to Somerset where this Dane>Dean/Dene topic began. Scottish Deans/Denes, who show the "Vel Arte" motto in honor of Arthurs and Banes' (the latter also use a wolf head), use the so-called "patee" cross of the English-alternative Clapton Crest, and these Claptons were, like the Sheriffs and ArDENES/Hardens, first found in Warwickshire.
The "Diens/Dynes" brings up the patee cross too! And Diens were likewise first found in Sussex. WOW, EXCELLENT, for as the Dien/Dyne Coat uses the Masci wing, while a Dien variation is shown as "Dives," the Deva capital of Cheshire comes to mind because Cheshire also has a Dunham Masci location!!! That's the location and clan to which I traced Obama's Dunham bloodline. Entering "Dein" brings up only the Scottish Dean/Dene surname (but not the other Dean/Dene surnames).
Entering "Dives" brings up Diva and Dyva variations!!! We also find a dancette like the Chee/Cheatle dancette. I suspected (years ago) that Chees/Cheatles link to the Hesse and Catti founders of Cheshire, even the Keith/Keath Catti of Lothian (MUSSELburg theater) that I traced to Meschins/Masculines of Cheshire (we're not forgetting that Keiths/Mascals trace to Eliphas, son of Esau). The Dives/Divas are in Keith colors, and moreover they use white scallops, the Meschin-scallop color. Dives/Divas were from Dives sur Mer, (near Caen) in Calvados...where the Meschins were first found. Mascis were first found in Piedmont, where Cuneo (that I trace to "Caen") is situated.
Remember, the dancette is suspect as a Dane-clan symbol, and then entering "Dance" brings up a Danna/Danes/Dance/Danais/Danis clan first found in Piedmont (I suggest linkage to Tanis>Danis elements). The D'Anse variation suggests linkage to the Ince clan (torteaus), and then Inces and Inches were from Diva=Chester!!! Yes, for the Ince/Ines write up says: "The name comes from when they lived in the region of Ince beside Chester." Note that while the surname "The surname Danis[Danes] originally came from the region of Poitou", the English Dance/Danse surname (Yorkshire) uses the Bute/Butt and Est/East horse. [As of May, 2012, I've noted that the Est/East horse head has been changed to that of the Pepin and Pipe horse head].
WOWWEE!!! When I saw that Dives/Divas were first found in Cambridge, the "quam" motto term came to mind, and although I was about to pass on taking a look at the Cambridge surname (swans), it was entered to find, not only another patee cross, but a motto, "Esse quam videri," the same motto as the Sherriffs!!!
Entering "Quam" brings up the Scarf and Clapton wolf head in the Queen/Sweeb/Swan Coat. Swancidences? Not a chance, for the Claptons use the same cross as Cambridges.
As further evidence that Deans/Denes were Danes, one Clapton write-up: "The name is claimed to be descended from a Danish noble who attended the court of King Canute, Osgod Clappa." Then, as per the Clotten variation of those Claptons, we find the engrailed Sinclair cross (surrounded by torteaus) in the Clott/Clayton/Clawton Coat (compares well with the Bitur/Butter Coat). There were Clayton locations in Sussex (where Denas/Denes were first found), and in Yorkshire and Lancaster where the Lancelot-related Banes and BANESters were first found. It was the Walkers, first found in Yorkshire, who use "quam," and then the Irish Walkers also use the Banes-colored crescent. The Cambridge surname (Kent and Duce lion), now known to be at the root of "quam," was also first found in Yorkshire.
When I first shared (4th update April) that: "In short, Otto Skorzeny claimed that the true identity of George H.W[alker]. Bush was 'George H. Scherff, Jr., the son of Nikola Tesla's illegal-immigrant, German-born accountant, George H. Scherff, Sr.", I had already found that both Sherriffs Walkers use "quam," but didn't know until now that the Clotts/Claytons also use "quam'!
Note that the Bush=Scherff claim in the Idaho-Observer article above was by a SKORzeny surname (i.e. like the Shores and Schorrs), himself a Nazi. Skorzeny is shown above in a photo with Hitler, and even wears the Hitler-style mustache.
The Sherriff write-up: "The surname was originally derived from the Shire Reeve, a Vice Count who was in charge of the law for a county." Wikipedia's article on Reeves and Sherriffs agrees with that claim. It tends to trace Scherff and Scheriffs to the Sherriff surname, not vice versa. We naturally want to know whether the Reeve surname applies, but all I can say at this point is that one motto term, "Animum," could be code for Nimrod>Nimmo elements.
Remember, the Nimmo surname uses cinquefoils...which are now found to be in the colors of the ArDENES and Hastings surnames. But I can add that the Surre surname, usually described here as the Sarah/Saire surname, uses a leopard in Crest as well as cinquefoils in the gold color of the Nimmo cinquefoils. Again, Nimmos use a "boast" motto term, but now it can be added that the Surre/Sarah/Saire Coat is nearly identical to the Boast Coat. (I trace the Sarahs/Saires to Sauers/Sours and Seagers, named after the Sava river).
When doing an investigation on the Dean/Dene and Dien surnames, I found a Clayton Dein (and family) in New York i.e. where the George Scheriff individual mentioned above lived. I say this because the same page shows a Candice Stewart Dein (and family) in West Islip, New York, which is smack on Long Island where George Scheriff clan was located. Investigating some of the West-Islip members, one was Corinne Abbott Dein, and there is an obituary online on her death:
[Corinne Abbott Dein] is survived by her daughter April Carabia, son Jeffrey A. Dein and wife Candace, sisters Peggy Dunlop and Lois Ell, grandchildren Jennifer Scheriff [WOW!] and husband Daniel, Julia White, Michael Dein,...Memorial Service on Saturday August 16, 2008 at 1st Presbyterian Church, Main St., Babylon..." http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/newsday/obituary.aspx?n=corinne-abbott-dein&pid=115380481
That's Babylon New York, in the same Suffolk part of Long Island. A little digging discovered that Julie White was also the granddaughter of Zoe DUNcan (her maiden name), and that she was Julie D. White of Idaho (beside Washington state), conspicuous because the Bush-Scherff article was from the Idaho Observer. Recalling the Ince surname that was just linked to the Dein-like Dances/Danses, it's conspicuous that Zoe was the daughter of:
...Inice Duncan...Zoe is survived by...her seven grandchildren Jonathan Surbrook, Jeremy Surbrook, Karen Evans, Lisa Hinds, Julia White, Kristopher Surbrook, and Michael Dein.
We saw "Julia White, Michael Dein" in the Corinne Dein obituary (Julia was either a Duncan or a Dein who married a White). Checking for Deins in Washington state because Zoe's family was from there, we find Michael Dien, shown as a relative of Corinne Abbott Dein, in Seattle, conspicuous because Obama's mother, a DUNham (i.e. like "Duncan"), went to college in Seattle. According to some, Ann Dunham gave birth to the current American president in relation to her Seattle excursion from Hawaii, i.e. at the time that she left Obama Senior in Hawaii, and, according to some, never saw him again afterward. Frank Marshall Davis was in Hawaii too.
By what coincidence is it that one Dean/Dene Coat uses roughly the Washington-surname Shield while the Diens/Dynes/Dives led to the Dives/Divas who in turn led to the Inces of Deva=Chester of Cheshire, while "Seattle" looks like "Cheatle" while the Dive/Diva Coat uses the Cheatle dancette?? I just sense that there's something more to all this than meets the eye. Compare the Sattle Coat with the Scottish Dean/Dene/Dein Coat, and don't always believe what you read about the naming of American locations after native=Indian elements.
Entering "Settle" brings up a green (lozenges) and white Coat, the colors of King Township in which Seattle is located. The Washington flag likewise uses a green background, and then Settles/Settels were first found in Lancashire, where the Washington surname was first found. "Hence, conjecturally, the surname is descended from the tenant of the lands of Settle held by Norman noble Roger le Poitvan who was recorded in the Domesday Book census of 1086. Settle is a charming town on the River Ribble." The Ribble Coat uses a Dunham- and Butler-like dancette.
The German Rebels/Robels use the white Masci wing again, in the white-on-black of the Diens/Dives (the Rebel/Robel description tells that they are eagle's wings). The Ribble river just happens to flow near Diva=Chester. Compare with the Welsh Robert Coat. The Inces of an Ince region beside Chester were first in Lancashire, where the Ribble flows (from Yorkshire).
Zoe Duncan, daughter of Inice, married a Surbrook. There is no Surbrook Coat coming up, but it sure does smack of the "sure" motto term of Kilpatricks/Sheeras, and of the Sures/Shores that I figure were Schores and Scher(f)s, and of the Sorleys/Surleys that were linked above to Danann>Danes of the Dean/Dene/Dein kind. Perhaps Shurbrooks/Sherbrooks apply, who show a Shirebrook variation evoking "shire reeve," the root of Sherriffs. Why is there a double-S snake design, very much like the double-S SwaStika design, in Wikipedia's Sugaar article? the The Shire surname (same as Sheers above) was first found in Sur-like Surrey.
I almost forgot: the Italian city of Mantua was depicted by mythical Mantus and his wife, Mania, also called Suri and possibly the same as Apolllo Soranus. As the Surre surname was just traced to Sauers / Sawyers / Seagers above, might Suri have been the dragon god, Sugaar, husband of Mari? Does the Sorenson surname apply to "Soranus"? Why do the Sorens and two Scandinavian Sorenson clans show no Coats with their pages?
Here's the Candace Pierce page, where we find a related Bash surname and even a Barbara A. Pierce. Remember, Pierces were first found in Somerset, where the Percivals were first found...who use a "candida' motto term (i.e. like "Candice/Candy"), and yet another patee cross (the Diens use that cross too). The Percival dancette is identical in design to the Ribble dancette (Fishers use one too, and then the so-called Fisher kings were linked to the Percival grail cult), and as I trace Percivals to the Parisii founders of Paris, who co-founded Yorkshire where the Ribble begins, note that the Danse/Dansette surname was first found in Paris. White roses, a symbol of York, are found in the Danse/Dansette Coat.
Fishers were first found in Warwickshire, where Sherriffs (laurel branch) were first found.
Never mind tracing these surnames to "Daniel," for even the Dennis/Danis write-up traces to "Dionysus." The Dennis/Danis surname (axes) was first found in Lancashire (i.e. where the Ribble flows). The French Danis Coat looks like a version of the English Mark Coat, and that should trace to the Tanaro and the adjacent Marici of Pavia. As Pavia was found to be the home of the Pepinids (from Landon), note that the Percival Crest uses the same black bear head as the Landon Coat, and that the Lamdons use stars in the colors of the French Danis stars. The Lamdon write-up: "First found in Berwickshire...Notable families such as the Percy...gathered many supporting clans around them....they settled in Yorkshire and Lancashire. The name was first recorded in the lands of Lamben in Berwickshire anciently known as Hassington."
I cannot find where I thought I made a solid/reasonable link of Nicholas de Vere's Drakenberg cult to the Draguinan location in a Var region of Provence, between Liguria and Marseille, in, or adjacent to, the land of the Salyes Ligurians. It's as if it disappeared from my files, or perhaps I had accidentally deleted it.
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