Lyres, Harps, and Apollo's Hungary Howlers
The Grate Valentinian Breakthrough to Fulbert the Saxophone
Look for the Seeds of Herod Antipas in King Arthur's Clarion
In a tense situation involving Russia and Syria, with a Russian naval port on-shore at Arados/Arpad even, one really needs to watch for a prophetic situation to develop, just in case. The potential for a prophetic event is even more likely now that Egypt is torn between Islamics leaning toward radicalism, and the old-school secularists. The civil dispute between these two Egyptian factions is very conducive for an attack on Egypt by the anti-Christ. It's expected that Islamic radicals from many countries will join his fighting machine when he announces war on Israel, and the situation right now happens to be: 1) the founder and leader of al-Qaeda is an Egyptian-born Muslim-Brotherhood operative; 2) the Muslim Brotherhood had official Parliamentary power in Egypt until not many days ago, and now practically owns the Egyptian presidency.
Can we see how the bitterness of the Brotherhood could cause an invasion of Egypt? Why is the Brotherhood more bitter this week than in the previous weeks? Because, after Morsi became the president, he officially nullified the court order to nullify the Parliament won by the Brotherhood. It was a yahoo-moment for the Brotherhood. Then the court nullified Morsi's nullification of the Parliamentary nullification. It's a Muslin "comedy" at its best.
In short, as the situation now sits, the Brotherhood's Parliament is not in existence. We have yet to see what the Morsi people will do about it. They were talking about taking the court to court. Can they do that? Alas, we are now reading:
Egypt's President Mohamed Morsi will respect a court ruling overturning his decree...
..."If yesterday's constitutional court ruling prevents parliament from fulfilling its responsibilities, we will respect that because we are a state of the law," the statement said, a day after the court froze Morsi's decree.
Morsi might turn into a puppet of the old school, judging by the way things are going. Many Brotherhood activists are very upset with him for various reasons, especially for his kissing up to the military that they all despise. Meanwhile,
Moscow has insisted it will deliver the Mi-25 helicopters [to Syria] in the teeth of western disapproval...
...Its new departure under a Russian flag will provoke fresh tensions because the Kremlin sent a flotilla of naval ships headed by a destroyer, the Admiral Chabanenko, to the Mediterranean earlier this week. The flotilla is a short way ahead of the Alaed [the ship carrying the helicopters] and is destined to call at Tartus, the Syrian port where Russia has a naval base.
..."The fleet will be sent on task to guarantee the safety of our ships, to prevent anyone interfering with them in the event of a blockade," Vyacheslav Dzirkaln said. "I remind you, there are no limits."
That's old-school Russian terminology for "touch me, you're dead."
Back now to the on-going dragon line topics. There are two major revelations in this update, two extremely key traces, one to the Flavian Romans, and the other finds the bloodline of Herod Antipas migrating from Languedoc to the same general place in Scotland as the Flavian Roman line through Dol. If some paragraphs confuse you, trudge right on through until you get to these key discoveries. They are sure to be part of future discussions.
What could it mean that Alans of Dol were found, in the last update, to be from the Carpathians while using the Carpenter Coat? It suggested that they were from the Hungarians just because English Stewarts use the same-style lion as Ulmans, whom I trace to Almos, mythical-legendary father of Arpad, founder of Hungarians (I trace "Arpad" to the Carpii/Arpii). Can we see here why Hitlers and Stewart-Pollocks were related? If the Carpenters to which the Hiedler/Hitler write-up traces is mere code for the Carpenter surname, then Hitlers too were from the namers of the Carpathians that Stewarts traced themselves to. The Hungarians are more dragon-important than I had realized years ago, and that's where the Russian naval base at Tartus comes in, for certain Hebrew parts of the Hungarians in Arad trace to the island of Arpad/Arados off-shore of Tartus.
Hitlers were linked to Stewarts of Renfrew, and Pollocks (first found in Renfrew) to the surname of Hitler's mother. But we are about to discover why Hitler's father married a Glassl surname as well as a Polzl. The two surnames were the same thing.
Long before the discovery in the last update that the 666 bloodline was from the Apollo cult of Sicily, namely the wolf-depicted Scylla monster, I traced the fellow monster, CHARYBdis (in the toe of Italy opposite the Scylla area of Sicily), to proto-Hungarians. Yes, I kid you not. There was a mythical CHAROPs (Thracian) whose son and grandson were located on the Hebros rivers so that Charops must have depicted the Carpii/Arpii that I've seen stamped on the Black sea coast north of Thrace, off the CARPathians. Charops was even made the father of Oeagrus/Oiagros, easily identifiable as the Ugrian ancestry of Hungarians (there was an Ugarit location in Syria).
So, clearly, the Apollo cult was ancestral to Hungarians from the eastern side of Sicily and in the toe of Italy, but then the Apollo drepani = tripod symbol (see last update for its 666 theme) traces to the Trapani area at western Sicily, the area of Sicily that I traced (years ago) to the founding of Marseille by the Marsi peoples. Later, I found that Apollo and the Marsyas goat were connected in a myth wherein they had a musical contest. Apollo's lyre / harp symbol was also the symbol of mythical Orpheus (not my idea), a Hebros-river entity that was made a son of Oeagrus, and grandson of harp-like Charops. In Wikipedia's Oeagrus article: "[Oeagrus] was also sometimes called the father of Marsyas." It just so happens that the Hebros river was also the Maritsa, and that Arad is off the Mures/Maros. We can see the connections from Syria to Hungary, and it telling us of wide migrations that historical documents don't.
What you are seeing here is the Aphrodite and Ares cult on the Hebros/Maritsa river, which was also called the Oeagria, then moving to the Mures/Maros as Aphrodite and Mars, but who also founded the Marsi in Abruzzo, the Mars portion of proto-Romans that used the Leto/Latona > Apollo wolf to depict themselves. Abruzzo was also "Aprutium," smacking of Bruttium in the toe of Italy. It appears that proto-Hungarians in Italy were the very make-up of the Biblical Roman dragon.
I had traced proto-Romans only recently to Rimmon near Megiddo (trace not clinched but makes sense), and here I now find that "In one [myth] version, [Oeagrus] ruled over the Edonian kingdom in the region of Mygdonia." The mythical Edonian king, Lycurgus, was made a father/son of Dryas, whom I traced to Dorians beside Megiddo, and Dryas was identified by me with Odrysians on the Hebros, explaining why Edonians were made part of the Oeagrus line. If you understand here, the Hebros river was settled by Syrians who became Romans on the one hand, and Hungarians, Stewarts, Pollocks and Hitlers on the other hand, as well as the epitome of Scotland via Hungarians proper in conjunction with Stewart-Pollocks.
Months before finding in the last update that the 666 bloodline went from Apollo's Scylla to the Szekelys (= proto-Hungarians) on the Mures (around Arad), I not only traced Apollo to Arados/Arpad, but traced the 666 bloodline to Stewarts. That latter trace was made because Stewarts were found to trace to Trabys of Vilnius (Lithuania, where a Leto-suspect Lada was goddess, i.e. where a Leto-related wolf line was present), and in the last update, Dol elements were discussed at Doly, in the L'viv theater, where Trabys/Sadowskis were first found. The confusion is that Revelation 9 tells of an Apollo-Abaddon entity that apparently makes war, for five months, against those who receive the 666. I would like to understand what that Apollo-Abaddon entity is.
One theory was that Abaddon comes out of Abydos of Mysia, Trojan bedrock. These two terms trace to the Boyds of Bute, the island of the Stewarts, where Apollo's Muses had settled whom I trace to Mysians. But it's a contradiction to view Stewarts as part of the 666 formation as well as the Revelation locusts, with hair like that of women, who appear opposed to the 666. At least, they appear opposed to the anti-Christ system in the Middle East that promotes the 666.
Another theory was that Abaddon refers to the Chinese who, soured against the West, come to the Middle East to do away with the armies of the anti-Christ. As the Abaddon prophecy involves a huge abyss in what looks like a nuclear explosion, the Chinese fit the part. But then the Russians also have nuclear bombs, and they too derived in ancient times from Arados/Arpad. Much of this update will stress Varangian-Rus elements amongst the Hungarians of Masonic interest, the ones who founded Moscow, the ones whom I see in Bute, the ones who are the heart of the dragon cult, the ones expected to bring the 666 to the world.
It's been years since the trace of Apollo's harp symbol to the Arpii/Carpi, but as Apollo's harp was also a lyre, and it just so happens that while the German Leir surname was first found in Ulm (where I trace Almos and Ulmans), the French Leirs were first found in Brittany. Very super-suspicious, the writing's on the wall. As the lyre of Orpheus was the Arpad-Hungarian line, how can it be coincidental that Stewarts trace exactly to Arpad Hungarians? You're going to see more of this Dol link to Hungarians in this update. And as Hungarians trace to Attila's Huns, what about the trace that many make of Huns to the Chinese theater? But even if the Huns were no further east than the Atil/Itil river, they may have developed into the Chinese after Attila's death (452 AD)...whom are slated to slay the anti-Christ's forces in the future.
History saw the Huns, allied to Alan Huns, spoil Europe like a destroyer. Perhaps it was a copy of end-time Orientals doing it again. The first horse of Revelation (chapter 6) is a white one with a bow. It would appear that this is the anti-Christ. The horse's stated purpose is to conquer, empire-building. Mythically, the white horse was that of the Hyksos > Trojan > Ares line, the very line that I trace to Arados/Arpad, and it just so happens that the bow and arrow is a symbol that well suits Hungarians. The second horse of Revelation is red, and it comes with a sword of war to take unity from the world. It could be that this red horse is that of Attila's Chinese line coming to spoil to empire-building of the white horse.
One could get the impression that a lyre cult arose from Ares (thought to be the ancient "Thracian Horseman" in white) leading to lyre-like surnames. The mythical Leir cult of Arthurianism was in Leicester, home of Ligurians that I trace to LYCURgus of the Edones. I suppose it's possible that "Lycur" could develop into a lyre-like term, especially as Lycurgus was linked in myth to Odrysians on the Hebros river, where the head of Orpheus and his lyre came floating down. This picture traces the lyre to Lycurgus, jibing with a king Leir trace to Ligurians. In short, the Lycurgus Edones settled Leicester, but also formed the Hungarians.
The head of Orpheus and his lyre floated to Lesbos, where the Lapiths had their origin. It just so happens that Ixion was a Lapith, and I trace him to "Kikon," a brother of mythical Hebros, symbol of the Hebros river. It's telling me that "Kikon" became "CYCNus, the Ligurian swan. This swan is the hub of Masonry. It's the Gog-factor of Europe leading to the False Prophet and his mad push of the 666.
The Ligurians of Leicester were merged with Massey element of the Stewarts, from the Massars of Lucca who created the Massi/Mattis Coat that Renfrew Stewarts, Boyds, and Houstons use. Lucca, you see, looks like a Lycurgus > Lyre entity, and even Italian money became a "lira." There's a Liri river to the south of Rome that flows through what I see as the land of Roman wolf lines. [Late in this update, you'll see why the Lys valley was home to the Ligurian / Bouillon swan in the viking era leading up to the Templar era.]
The first I learned of scythians making blood-brother pacts for empire-building was as per the Arpads. Wasn't this Gog, the first horse of Revelation? The various kings/rulers drained some of their blood into a cup, and they took turns drinking from the same cup, in the style of Jesus' Last Supper. One could get the impression that God formed the Last Supper in this way as code for His ultimate smashing of the 666 bloodline...going through the Arpads. God creates the themes of his Program for angels too, not just humans, as they watch history unfold. Thanks to my delving into mythology (never had the desire to do so, but here I am), I have seen time and again that God's program uses codes matching the codes used by his enemies.
By what coincidence is it that the Crest of the Leirs, first found in Almos-suspect Ulm, is a grail cup, the symbol of the Almos/Arpad blood oaths? Didn't Jesus say that we shouldn't make oaths?
The blood oath...was, according to tradition, a pact among the leaders of the seven Hungarian tribes, traditionally held to be the first, unwritten constitution of the Hungarian nation...The oath was sealed by the seven leaders -- Almos, Elo, Ond, Kond, Tas, Huba and Tohotom -- by cutting their arms and letting their blood into one chalice. This practice is likely to have been used traditionally to seal exceptionally strong oaths...
Seven tribes of Magyars, you see, all suspect as Magog, and then I identified the Apollo of the far north (i.e. the Hyperboreans) as Gog. At Armageddon, God has prepared seven Seals, seven Trumpet HORNS, and seven bowls/vials (grail-cup allusion?). Couldn't they be code for the oaths sealed by, the horn symbol of, and the cups used by, the Arpad scythians? That horn symbol is fashioned, by Trabys, to look like the 666, like an act of war in God's face.
Trabzon was the general area of the Meshech, the Gogi, and of the Rize location. The Rice chevron is in the colors of the Wren / Raines chevron, and like the Wrens, the Rice Coat uses ravens...suggesting that "Wren" and "Rain" were raven-depictable surnames. The Raines write-up traces to "Ragin," a RAGNvald-suspect term. This is important because I trace "Ragnvald" to the Reghin location on the Mures. Here's from the Polabian article again:
The Rani [or Rujani] of Rugen...are sometimes considered to be part of the Veleti. South of the Rani were the Ucri (Ukranen) along the Ucker and the Morici (Morizani, Muritzer) along the Muritz.
One could get the impression that the Ucri, and Ukrainians, were Ugrians/Ugors, a term I trace to "Gugar," the Assyrian name for Gogarene at Armenia's Lake Sevan. One could get the impression that the Sinclair vikings were related to Hungarians in this Ugrian way. The proto-Hungarian Magyars were in the Ukrainian theater. L'viv is not only in the Ukraine, but more-importantly in Red Rus / Galicia, founded by the Varangians. It's here that we can explain the Hungarian backdrop of the Dol Alans, for I see reasons to locate king Andrew of Hungary in Red Rus.
I can see that French Leirs (scallops, in Meschin-scallop colors, trace-able to Scylla) link to the Raines ("leges" motto term) that I trace from Rennes to "Renfrew." The Wren write-up traces, not only to the Rennes location, but to a Raines surname. It's telling us that Mascis of some kind were in Rennes; the Musy/Mussy/Mousy surname was first found in Brittany, using an eagle in the colors of the Massi/Mattis eagle. French Leirs are said to be from Dol. This was the Ligure-Massey connection to Dol's Stewart line, and it's suggesting that mythical Lycurgus, the lyre line, was in Dol.
And there's that rub again, for while Stewarts are suspect as those who will form the 666, yet they lived in a place tracing to Attila's house of Dulo, the house now suspect as the earthly agents in the bowls of Revelation. The "kings of the East" are in the sixth bowl of Revelation, and they cross the Aphrodite river...which has a source very near the Aras river where her Rus mate, Ares, derives.
We can understand that the Leir-Musys of Brittany were the Muses of Apollo (who was even given a mouse symbol too), the music-depicted Mysians that gave Apollo his lyre symbol. I can understand that the Muses were the crow line too, out of Chora and Scala of Patmos, which should explain the ravens in the Wren chevron, a chevron in the colors reversed from the Leir and Raines chevron. [What you're seeing here is a Rangabe merger with swan-line Ligurians, which is explained late in the update when Rangabes of the proto-Walser kind are discussed in the Lys valley as the makings of the first Templars, especially Godfrey de Bouillon.]
Mysians were from Moesia in the Carpathians, and should therefore trace to mythical Charops, the proto-Carpenter surname involved in the Hungarian side of Dol's Alans. In other words, (proto)Carpenters of the lyre kind must have been in Brittany with Moesi-rooted Musys. Let's ask why French Davids/Davins, first found in Brittany, use both a lyre and the lily. It is these Davids/Davins especially that should trace to the DeVAUDs using the Well(er) pelican design, for the lily traces to the Lys-valley home of Walsers. It just so happens that Walsers lived all around the Wallis canton, right beside VAUD canton. One could get the impression that a Vaud line morphed for a reason into a David surname, and it's not likely due to the Biblical king David.
The Rani/Rugens of Polabia lived in the same theater as Wagrians, and for reasons I can't explain as per my personal security, I think God has arranged the circumstances of my present life to reveal that "Wagri" was from a crow line of "Ugrian." While Ugrians were a white line, the crow part of this revelation suggests Gorgons / Amazons from north-Africa (= Apollo-Cyrene), even the Meshwesh, and indeed, the Wagrian-related Varni have been identified as proto-Veres, who lived in the same place as Masseys. Moreover, as I'm seeing the Sinclair vikings in the Wagrians, the Sinclairs themselves trace to Moors. Besides, I traced the raven-depicted vikings to Varangians (that I see rooted in the Varni).
It was black Gog and Meshech in Polabia (or the so-called "dark Danes"), though I expect Moesi lines there that were not from north Africa, which is where Apollo's HyperBOReans come in. The Arthurian grail cult respected, most of all, a mythical Bors entity.
The Trabzon elements in Polabia have already been traced to Trips/Treffs (Massey boot) and Drummonds of Hamburg. Drummonds are very important in the Alan link to king Andrew, for he gave birth to the Drummonds. You may have noted that the German Leirs of Ulm use two engrailed wavy bars/stripes in the white-on-blue colors of the three Drummond bars. It's telling me that Leirs trace to the Apollo lyre symbol that was also that of the Charops > Oeagrus line...to Wagrians. Can you see "Wagri" in "Oeagrus"? Rather than pronounce the latter term like, ogue-rus, what about pronouncing the "Oe" as 'W', as for example the Greek "oen" became our "wine", or as the Wallace surname has a Uallas variation.
[I haven't the time to proof read the rest; take it as it comes. About the only thing I hate about this work is the proof reading crammed into the weekends. Will I ever have a life again?]
You may have caught the gold-on-red crosslets in the Wren Chief, identical to the crosslets used by the Hamburg and Trip (and Windsor and Gore) surnames. Wrens were first found in Durham and thus trace to the Durance river, important for the next section wherein Pollocks trace to the Lys river near the source of the Durance, and to Guillestre on the Durance. But before getting to that, it should be said that the Rani / Rugen topic has signs (not to be elaborated on here) of tracing to Rockefeller lines out of Rijeka/Rika, which lines were discovered to be those of Maxwells too, who had Pollocks as one of their septs. In fact, I trace Pollocks (from FULbert the Saxon) to Rockefeller-related Fullers, and then trace Rockefellers to the Rices that were a Wren branch that itself traces from Rennes to "Renfrew," home of Pollocks and GLASgow.
It was days ago, when receiving an email from emailer Pollock, that a theory developed wherein the P-Celts used "Pollock" while the C-Celts used "Glass" for the same family, thus explaining why Pollocks (and Stewarts) lived in Glasgow. Conspicuous here is that emailer Pollock has a terrible case of porphyry, a purple-portrayed disease while Wrens (who I trace to RANgabe Byzantines, whose imperials had a Purple Room where their heirs were given birth) use purple lions. This does not necessarily contradict my personal trace of porphyry to Varangians and to Masseys, for the Rangabe Byzantines had a relationship with Kiev Varangians, and Pollocks were related to Masseys.
Emailer Pollock wrote to say:
I stumbled on a supposition that Pollock in England was really Wallace. This is how they figure: Fulbert the Saxon may have used only Saxon runes to write with, not being a Norman Latin writer. Thus, he used the Saxon "wynnP" [right-to-left writing] that is P pronounced W. Then, the "ock" was pronounced softly as "oss." Which comes out Wallace.
I don't know the Saxon language or alphabet. It appears from the above that the "wy" read backward as "yw" is the "ock" sound, while the Saxon 'n' is the L-sound, thus making for a Wlloss term...which easily morphs to "Gloss / Glass." Entering "Gloss" gets the German Glas/Glossauer surname using stars in the colors of the Hiedler/Hitler / Alan / Julian / Bauer / EU stars. They are also the colors of the Durham stars that traces the Glass lot to GUILLestre on the Durance. In fact, the Glass page shows a GILLeglas variation. Reminder: the Glaze's use the Douglas/DuGLASS heart and the latter use the salamander in flames, the Julian/Gillian symbol. And besides, the Glaze Shield is also the Cutter Shield that traces to the Cottian mountains smack at Guillestre.
"Gloss" and "Pollock" together is evoking mythical Glaucus, lover of Scylla, that I see at the root of Julians and Nazis. Glaucus was blue-green, and Pollocks (and Bauer / Bowers) use a green Shield. It recently became apparent that the green snake / dragon issued forth from Glaucus...the color of Melusine, the dragon woman of the LUSatian > LYS line, showing in the Glass Crest.
LESlies use a green griffin-dragon. The Gloss/GlasSAUER gold stars are on a blue bend, the color of the Leslie (= Hungarians in Scotland) bend with three gold buckles. It just so happens that I trace the Leslie bend, and Leslies, to the Lesce locations on the Sava, the river that named the Saiers/SAUERS...who use an upright lion in the colors of the upright Stewart lion. It's suggesting that Alans and Pollocks were directly related to Leslies, which jibes with the trace of the Stewart lion to Hungarians, meaning that the "Pollock" trace to "Gloss" is plumbing true thus far.
The "Grip fast" motto of Leslies is said to be in honor of Maurice Drummond, grandson of king Andrew of Hungary. But there is a Gripel location in Brittany, and then the Germo-Austrian Gripp surname gets the Grabners/Cravers (= crow line) using the same-colored bend as the English Walters...first found in CROWhurst. By now you may know that I trace the Sava-river clans, such as Croatian and Serbian ones, to Gareb, and that while Grabners smack of Garebites, "Craver" smacks of "Krvati," the Croatian term for themselves.
[Ahh-hah-hah-ha, we have the evidence needed. A day or two after writing here, the Crowhurst/Crowdere surname was checked to find vair fur on a wavy bend. If one removes the blue part of the fur from the band, the two colors of wavy Pollock bend remains. Until recently, the shape of the Pollock bend was identical to the one in the Crowhurst Coat. The Crow chevron is in the colors of the Pollock bend.]
There was a question in my mind as to why this Wlloss = Pollock idea had not surfaced centuries ago if true, and besides it seemingly tended to obliterate my trace of Pollocks to Poles. But never-minding the difficulties and how they might be explained, emailer Pollock's message turned out to be compelling. Pollocks came to Renfrew in the train of Alans in Shropshire, and Alans used "Walter" for a beloved name. Not only can "Wallace" be a Walter branch, the Wallace Coat uses a white-on-red lion, colors reversed from the Ulm-related lion of English Stewarts.
Moreover, German Wells/Wellers use a pelican-on-nest, a Stewart Crest symbol, in Wallace-lion colors, and then the two chevrons of English Wellers (Kent) match the colors of the Raines / Wren chevron. This is a good thing for my trace (still not clinched but still not abandoned) of "Flaad" to "BLATand" bluetooth, a Danish king related to Sigrid the Haughty, for Wells/Wellers trace to the Harcourt Danes of the Vieilles / Beaumont kind.
It could be noted here that Pollocks are thus tracing to Walters of Silesia, and that Mieszko Poles, whom I traced Pollocks to, were rulers in Silesia. It turns out that while Mieszkos are traced by me to Mascis of Piedmont, the Walsers, who use Melusine, the Glass-Crest symbol, are known to have lived in the Lys valley on the northern frontier of Piedmont. Walsers, who show a Glass-suspect Walss variation, are not only in Wallace colors, but use, I'm sure, a goat in the gold and black of the Traby bugle (= goat horn), and of the Gripps and English Walters who link easily to Silesian Walters.
The "Jewish" Glass wings are, once again, in the colors of the Wallace lion. As I trace the Lys valley to the Lys surname (and Masseys from the Lys-valley theater) using a single white-on-red fleur-de-lys, the colors of the Wallace lion yet again, note that the Scottish Glass Coat uses a single red-on-white fleur-de-lys. The Savoy Masseys used to show the Trip boot design, and the Glass surname was first found in BUTEshire, exactly where I traced Apollo's Muses. The Pollock>Wlloss link to "Glass" is still framing true, and we may ask whether the Alans of Dol changed their names drastically to hide their tracks. Who would have guessed that Glasgow was named after "Walter / Wallace."
To clinch the Walser identification with Wallaces, the latter come up as "wallis," the name of the Swiss canton where Walsers originate. Wallis canton is beside the Lys-valley theater. To help clinch the Pollock link to "Wallace," German Wollers use the same-colored bend as "Jewish" Pollocks (Wallace colors), as well as eagles in the colors of the Maxwell eagle. If "Wooler" has a "Gloss" look to it rather than a Glass look, it could be due to both Gloss' and Woolers being first found in Prussia (where the Mieskes/Mesechs were first found).
As Scottish Glass' use a white Shield on red Shield, while Pollock-suspect PLACEntia (see "Placentia" in last update for Pollock traces to the city) uses a small white Shield/box on a red Shield, not to mention that the Arms of Placentia are split in half red and white, like part of the Walser Shield, shouldn't "Wallace" trace to "Plac(entia)"? It's no wonder that Stewarts wanted to hide their tracks if they trace to Ananias, and this is where it gets very interesting...where the Anne/Hanne / Hanna / Annabel / Hand surnames all use stags, the symbol of Hungarians in respect to their ancestral roots.
You can't possibly miss the mark here. Hungarian roots were in northern Italy (albeit no one but me seems to be announcing this, trust me on it), as even the Eugene Coat uses the so-called "Andrew's Cross." But the Eugene Coat also uses stars in Glass-star colors. Reminder: Eugenes trace to Euganeo, named after a peoples related to the Ugor-like Augur surname. AND, it's the Eugene motto, "Audaciter," that smacks of the "Audacter" term used by Pollocks. Therefore, the Pollock > Wlloss theory is still planing true, leading to Hungarians once again, as Pollocks should along with Leslies, Drummonds and Alans.
It just so happens that king Andrew married ANAstasia, daughter of Yaroslav the Varangian king of Kiev. Yaroslav's father, VLADimir, smacks of "Flaad," the name of the father of Alan-fitz-Flaad, the man who provided for the Alan surname in Dol. As Vladimir conquered the L'viv area of Halych/Galicia and called it Red Rus, we can expect that king Andrew had been there with princess Margaret of Scotland, for she was in exile in the company of king Andrew when he himself was in exile under the protection of the Kiev Varangians. It was in the last update that the Vivian > Fife > Five bloodline was traced to L'VIV, and then Fife is beside Aberdeen, where Leslies settled. Fife is beside Perth, where Drummonds settled. The son of princess Margaret, after she became queen of Scotland, called the Alans of Shropshire to come be the High Stewards of his court. We easily see here that the trace of Dol Alans to Doly (near L'viv) had to do with Margaret, Andrew and Maurice Drummond who sailed the ship that took Margaret back to Scotland.
The Melusine-using Glass' were first found in Buteshire, which has historically been a Stewart and Boyd-of-Stewart stronghold, and then the Vey/Vivian surname (uses the purple lions of Renfrew-related Wrens) traces, not only to the Fife Coat, but to Morgan le Fay of Bute, where green-snake Melusine was located by the green-dragon Veres. Green-dragon Crichtons were/are on Bute too. Dutch Veys even use a boot. As Avalon-like Apollo/Apolluon was the Scylla wolf and the leader of the nine Muses, while Morgan le Fay was made chief of nine witch's, it's clear that the green color of these dragon lines were from Glaucus, lover of Scylla, even the Glass bloodline to Pollocks. The ancient Gileki/Gels, that is, who used the swastika (see Wikipedia's swastika article), visible in the Julian/Gillian Coat.
UNBELIEVABLE. Actually it's not. While looking at the Pollock variations, wondering whether any of them had a G-form variation (so as to prove that "Pollock" and "Glass" were one), the Pook variation was spotted, at which moment I wondered whether the Gooch surname could apply (I know a man with Gooch surname). Not only does the Gooch/Googe surname use boars, a Pollock-Crest symbol, and not only were Gooch's first found in Roxburgh, where Maxwells lived that formed some key aspect of Pollocks, but the Gooch motto is, "Audaces juvat," too close to the "Audacter" used by Pollocks!
Therefore, I'm convinced, Pollocks and Glass' were one, and yet the curiosity remains that Pollocks are yet tracing to the Mieszko-line Poles even though they may not have been named after Poles, but rather after a P-Celt version of "Glass." Or, perhaps it's incorrect that "Pollock" was a P-Celt version. It may instead be that "Pollock" arose from "Glass" just because a Glass line hooked up with a Mieszko line of Poles. Maxwells and Mieszkos both trace to the Maezaei people in the proto-Roman Sava theater, exactly where we'd expect the Maxwell-related Julians/Gillians to surface.
Not only the Gooch's/Googes use "juvat," but Duffs of Perthshire / Fife use it too, a term I'm tracing to the Roman Jupiter/Jove, to the Joves/Geeves, and to Ceva of Piedmont. The Japodes lived on a Kupa tributary of the Sava. The Chep/Jappa/Jeepma surname (could be a branch of Joves/Geeves) uses the Roman double headed eagle, and on the eagle's breast there is a white-on-blue Zionist hexagram discussed in the last update as relating to the 666 bloodline to the Israeli flag. This white-on-blue star (colors of the American stars) on the eagle's breast evokes the eagle in the Great Seal of the United States.
I kid you not that the Chep surname was found by looking up in one of my older updates (first update November, 2011) to check whether I had spelled "Kupa" properly. I had noted that the CHIPmunk(s) which visits me daily to get some free handouts had just come in at the moment that I spotted the Chep surname.
In the last update, the gold color at the elbow of the arm-in-armor came up at least three times, once in the Kroes/Kreuger Crest. It's now come up in the Wallace/Wallis/Uallas Crest. Another surname of the last update that showed the arm-in-armor was the Wallace/Wallis/Uallas surname, though at that time I hadn't yet read emailer Pollock's Wallace message. This arm-in-armor is used by Mieskes.
I was just scrolling back to find the Coat using an arrow piercing a swan because the Pollock boar is pierced by an arrow, and because the one using the pierced swan is from the Welch/WALCH Crest, which in my mind is further corroboration that "WALLACE" and "Pollock" were one (i.e. Pollocks were Welch's/Walch's, as can be gleaned in the Wales-suspect Uallas variation of Wallace's. In the middle of that search, I needed to re-load the Pollock Coat, at which time I checked for a Gogue surname as per the Pogue variation of Pollocks. And what popped up but a swan in the colors of the Gooch/Googe boars! As Gog has the blue color because "gog" meant sky," note that both the Gogues and Gooch's/Googes use the blue Shield...and besides, Gogarene/Gugar was at lake SEVAN, where I trace the heraldic SWAN.
Scottish Walch's were not only first found in Roxburghshire (home of Maxwells), but use the same saltire as Maxwells. The "numine" motto term of these Walch's is important because Newmans use the Raines lions and therefore connect to Renfrew's elements.
In my earliest dragon-hunting years, I came across an article of Stewart roots that told of a branch in Wales. The Wallace's and Walch's must have been that branch. The Welsh use a red dragon, highly suspect with the Revelation dragon, and then the Welsh trace themselves to Cimmerians - GOMERians, one of Gog's allies at Armageddon. It's important now that Pollocks are looking like the Wallaces / Walch's because they're also looking to Gog. I hate to break it to emailer Pollock, but that's what it looks like. The Gog factor was heavily in Renfrew (Wallaces were first found in neighboring Ayrshire).
I suppose one question is, which variations of the Pollock bloodline came first, the Glaucus-like ones such as Glass', or the Gog-like ones such a Gogues / Googes? The fact is, both trace to the Caucasian theater, and the Glaucus river was in the area inhabited by Caucasian SVANeti. This supports a trace of "Pollock" to mythical "Pollux," born from a swan egg from Leda, wife of Tyndareus. On this old-drawn map (inaccurate, not to scale) of Caucasia, enlarge the map by placing your mouse on map, and pressing the Control key along with the plus sign. There you see Gogarene found off the shore of lake Sevan, but then see Tyndaris on the north side of the Glaucus river (under the word, "COLCHIS"). Nearby is the proto-Melusine line, where you see "Luzi." This is the dragon at war with God because it found worldly riches and empire, branch after endless branch, not wishing to give it up to God's Kingdom.
The Cokes/Cochs with ostrich, and white-on-blue Shield (same as Gogue / Googes), seem to apply to Gog. It's the Carrick ostrich, and then both Carricks and Wallace's were first found in Ayrshire. As I trace Carricks to Thomas Randolph of Moray, I see that the German Coch lozenges are in the colors of the same in the Arms of Thomas Randolph (stag head in Crest). "RANdolph" may be a term related to "RENfrew," but in any case, it's Stewart-important that Irish Hands/Glavens use the same-colored lozenges while English Hands use: 1) red hands, a popular symbol in Ireland; 2) the stag; 3) as well as the Gog-suspect blue-on-white.
Stewarts use the stag too, a symbol no doubt of their Hungarian roots, and then the Voirs of Gripel show the lion of raven-depicted Mackies/Mackeys, first found in the same place as Carricks and Wallace's. It's important that Moray's Randolphs should trace to Ranulf le Meschin, for English Hands were first found in Cheshire. As Hands are thus suspect with the Gog-Meshech line, related to the Gomerian-rooted Wallaces, the trace of the Hungarian stag to Ugrians is indication that Stewarts are also, along with Pollocks, the Gog factor to Renfrew...if "Ugrian" traces to "Gugar."
What's egging at me now is whether the stag-using surnames such as Hands and Annes/Hannes trace to ANAstasia, wife of king ANDrew, and daughter of Gog-suspect Varangians (they are Gog suspect because they trace to the Warnow river where Ugrian-suspect Wagrians lived). I'm always pondering, whenever on this topic, what sexual part Margaret of Scotland and/or her mother (Agatha) had with Andrew, and who it gave birth to. It just so happens that Andrew's Cross is colors reversed from the saltire of the Malcolms, and then Margaret was married to Malcolm III after returning to Scotland from the company of king Andrew (Andrew was on the throne in 1046 by the time that she returned some years later). The Malcolm saltire is in the colors of the Hands and Hannas, the blue-on-white colors of Gog once again. And there are stag heads surrounding the Malcolm saltire.
THEN ZOWIE, the blue Malcolm saltire shows the gold stars of the blue bend of Glaucus/Gog-suspect Gloss'/Glassauers. It's tracing Pollocks to king Andrew, explaining why the Scottish Andrews use the same colors saltire as Pollocks. Note that the Andrew Coat has a red Shield behind the gold-on-green saltire, the color expected of the Varangian Rus, especially of the Red-Rus Varangians.
The Anes/Hanes (in Scottish Drummond colors) were first found in Yorkshire, where Andrew's grandson, Maurice Drummond is expected. The Malcolms are shown also as "Callam," and then Hallams (in Malcolm/Callam colors) were first found in Yorkshire. As the York-surname saltire is the Malcolm/Callam saltire, the trace of Malcolm III to York is clinched. Maurice Drummond, I once read, was "Marot de Yorvik." I had traced Marot de Yorvik years ago (when I was very "green" at these topics) to Red Rus / Galicia, but abandoned the work for lack of evidence. It's now looking feasible.
If the Anes/Hannes were named after Anastasia (a Varangian Rus), we'd expect a red Shield, as we do see, in honor of the Varangians. I traced the Drummonds to the Andrew at the root of the Ross clan, and then a further point to be made now is that the Ross/Ruse lions are in the colors (white on red Shield) of the Wallace lion. You can read in the Andrew write-up that the clan was associated with Ross. The Ross surname was first found in Yorkshire. I've been over most of this territory before, but the new point here seems to be that Wallaces>Pollocks were the Ross-clan line from king Andrew.
It explains the Fulbert > Pollock trace to Fullers and Fellers of the Rockefeller kind whom I had found using quite a bit of white on blue (e.g. Roques/Rocks, Fellers), or colors reversed (e.g. Fells), the colors of Andrew's Cross. Fellers (trefoils, as with Rods their relatives) use the chevron of the Valais surname, and then the Wallis variation of Wallaces traces to Wallis canton, also known as Valais canton. There can be no mistake here, Pollocks were from Andrew as well as from trefoil-depicted Roquefeuils, and then Margaret's son (David I) built for her a HALY Rod House, which is what alerted me to the trace of Margaret and Drummonds to HALYCH(ina), or Red Rus Galicia. At the time, I figured that "Rod" had to do with "Red Rus," but now that Roquefeuils are figuring in, who married the Rodes of Rodez, it appears that Margaret was the Rockefeller>Pollock line.
The trace of Pollocks here to the Ross clan is very welcome as per a very old trace of FulBERT the Saxon to the Bert surname (Devon), using black (Traby-suspect) hunting horns in the style of the white Pollock hunting horns. As you can see, the Bert Crest hand holding a wreath is identical to the Ross/Ruse Crest. The Bert chevron is in the colors of the Welch/Walch chevron (while the upright Ross lions are in the colors of the upright Wallace lion).
The Bar-suspect Burns use a black bugle too and are said to have a Bernys location at Renfrew. It could be that Berts/Burts and Burns were the same line, therefore, but in any case, the Burn hunting horn is in the style of the one used by Italian Davids (and Brians of Wales), and that to me traces the Traby hunting horns (which I think these all are) to Huntingdon, where the line of David I came to rule. HUNtingdon smacks of an Hungarian location, you see.
I've already traced the Wallaces to English Walters using the Gripp bend, but it should now be added that the Voirs/Voyers of Gripel use the Mackesy/Margeson lion. Why do Margesons come up with "Mackesy"? One Mackesy Arms, as expected from the Glaucus-Scylla line, uses a green snake. Entering "Margy" gets the Mackies/Mackeys using the same lion design. If Margaret traces to Pollocks, shouldn't these Macks be Maxwells? Reminder: Walters of Silesia trace to the Mackie/Mackey/Margy and Margeson/Mackesy lion because the Walter lions are used (in the same colors) by Gripel's Voirs.
As per all the findings in the last update, it's mainly a mystery to me here who the Wallaces / Glass' / Pollocks were of the Red Rus theater, but that's where I think mythical Pollux traces, to the Poles on the border with Helen-suspect Galicia (there was/is a Gallipolis at Hellespont). Perhaps "VLAD(imir)" morphed into the WALTer > Wallace bloodline, as that would explain why Pollocks / Wallaces are tracing to the Ross/Ruse clan. It would suggest that Alans/Walters of Dol were from the Kiev Varangians, and were the same bloodline of Margaret, explaining why king David made the Alans his court's "high stewards." But for this to be true, Margaret's mother had to be a Varangian in some way. Was she, for example, a sister of Anastasia?
There is one Margaret Coat showing up with three red roses on stems (apt symbol for Rus), but as it was first found in Languedoc, it's hard to know whether it was after Margaret of Scotland. However, now that Pollocks are tracing to her son, it must be said that the Welsh David and Davis Coats both show the same-colored bend as Jewish Pollocks. Then, Irish Davis' show trefoils in the colors of the Rod(e)s to which Roquefeuils had linked...in Languedoc. It's strongly suggesting that Fullers, who I see at the root of Pollocks (Fullers use the Carpenter bars and beacon and therefore trace to the Carpathians) had somehow been part of the Margaret > David line that honored Haly Rod (that was the original term for what is now, Holyrood). This is the line to which Obama's mother's Randolph line traces, and she's reported to have had a sex-related association (i.e. nude photos) with Frank Marshall Davis...who could be the true father of Obama.
It's interesting here that the Davids are Welsh, jibing with the Wallace trace to Walch's/Welch's, yet this trace of the Welsh Davids to king David contradicts my trace of the same Davids to such terms as "Devon" and "Daphne." On the other hand, the French David Coat shows the same-colored chevron as Payens, as well as three gold symbols, the colors of the Payen hexagrams, while Payens were first found in Dauphine. Before I can abandon my trace of Welsh Davids (Cheshire, Flintshire) and Davis' to Daphne elements in Devon, and to Diva and Davenports of Cheshire, it would be best to know what or whom Margaret named David after.
It should also be said here that French Devauds use the same pelican-on-nest design as Wellers...who are possibly a Feller branch. French Davids/Davens/DAVIAUDs were even first found in Brittany, therefore highly suspect from the proto-Pollock bloodline there; the French David chevron is even in the colors of the Feller and Valais chevron. Then, ZOWIE, the greyhound in the Crest of English Wellers shows the same red rose on stem, apparently, as the Languedoc Margarets! Reminder: the Margeson and Margy Coats traced to Voirs of Brittany's Gripel, and Margarets use a gold Shield, the color of the English Walters showing the Gripp bend. This would be a good place to add that the Pollock-related Gooch's/Googes (Roxburghshire) use a red rose in Crest.
And Wollers use the same bend as Davids / Davis with black symbol on the bend to boot! There can be no doubt that Pollocks were in the Margaret > David bloodline, and the holy rod is pointing to the Languedoc Roquefeuils as they married the Rodes'. Is this suggesting that Margaret's mother was a Roquefeuil-Rodes bloodliner, or is there another explanation?
It was recently shown that French Alans use the ducklings of the Devon surname, but we now find that French Davids are also "Davin." The lyre of French Davids/Davins is reportedly that of the Biblical king David, but what about the lyre symbol of the Charops > Carpathian bloodline that Alans have clearly traced to??? As David was Margaret's second-last son while her last was named AlexANDER, it may be that David was named after a David in the family / theater of king Andrew/ANDERS. Welsh Davids are in Ross-lion colors, with a Rus-colored Shield. "Alex" is a "Halych"-like term.
The Devauds are also "DeVAUX," and then the Vaux clan appears to apply because: 1) Scottish Vaux' use a bend in colors reversed to the David bend; 2) Scottish Vaux' were first found in Lothian, where Margaret's cup-bearer, Henry Sinclair lived; 3) Henry Sinclair lived at Roslin, a place smacking of Rosellon variation of Roussillon in the Rodez area of Languedoc; 4) French Vaux/BELIveau smack of the Alan-related Bellis, and use red roses on gold, the colors of the roses in the Coat of Languedoc Margarets; 5) English Vaux'/Vallibus' use the checks of the Arms of Meulan, where the Harcourt line of Vieilles ruled via the BEAUmonts...who seem related to the BeliVEAU line of Vaux; 6) Beaumonts were first found in the same place (Dorset) as Roussillon-suspect Russells who use the upright lion in Stewart-lion colors; 7) Beaumonts use the upright lion in colors reversed, and therefore in the colors of the upright Wallace lion, suggesting that Humphrey de Vieilles (father of Beaumonts) was a Wells > Wallace bloodliner (the Wells were definitely a branch of Vaux/VALLibus, suggesting that Wells and Devauds/Devaux' trace to Wallis/Valais canton). Beaumonts are also BELLmonts, and have been traced by their two Coats to the Skull and Bones surnames...meaning that they linked with the Patmos crow line.
As Pollocks are now tracing to the Julian > Glass bloodline, it should be added that Beaumonts were first found in Dorset and GLOUCestershire, where I trace the Glaucus bloodline. It tends to reveal that "Vieilles" does not trace to "old" as we are told, but rather to the Julian line. The Fond de Villes are suspect here; they become more-important due to their trace to Seleucids of Sulcis, and therefore to Silesia, where German Walters were first found who prove easily to be relatives of English Walters using the black-on-gold colors of the Wells' lion. The Wells' were first found in the same place, Lincolnshire, as Pollock-suspect Blacks. (The bend of English Walters is the Gripp bend because Silesian/German Walters use the Voir/Voyer lions in the same colors.)
As both Black Coats use stars in Glass-stars colors, Blacks appear to be a Pollock variation, especially as the Scottish Blacks use the saltire in Maxwell-saltire colors. Blacks were first found in Lincolnshire, where we expect the Rodes' / Russell bloodline. Scottish Blacks show the Shield-and-Chief colors of the raven-using Tates, which is said due to the "liberTATE" motto term of Wallace's. It compares to the "Labore" that is the entire Mackie/Mackey/Margy motto, and then both the latter and the Wallaces were first found in Ayrshire.
Should we expect the "crux" motto term of the Blacks to trace to the Kroes/Kreuger bloodline? The Crux surname (Kent) not only uses a pale in the black-on-white colors of the Black saltire, but a spread eagle and the patee cross, two symbols of the Patrician line to the black-on-white saltire. The Crux Coat pale even uses its symbols in the colors of the Kroes/Kreuger jugs.
Moreover, crux-using Blacks were first found in the same place as the wife of Ranulf le Meschin, who as a Taillebois was a Talbot. I trace Talbots to Tailers/Taylors, who, like the Crux Coat, use a black-on-white pale with three white symbols on the pale. (Russian Alexanders use the same!) And both Tailers and Crux' were first found in Kent, where Well(er)s were first found who use the red rose, likely of the Caesars/Sesares, first found in Kent. It means that the Black saltire should be the Julian saltire (as well as the Maxwell saltire), wherefore Blacks (being lumped here in the Pollock/Wallace/Glass bloodline) ought to trace to Guillestre, where I now trace the Glass bloodline. The Tailor lions are even in the colors of the Mackie/Mackay/Margy lion, thus clinching the link of the latter (= queen Margaret suspects) to the Wallace's.
This is the place to show the Clay Coat's trefoils. I can't recall which variation of the Glass bloodline prompted a look at the Clay surname; Perhaps it was the Blay variation of Blaze's, who use the same saltire as Blacks. The Clay Coat uses the same white wings as "Jewish" Glass', and was first found in the same place (Lincolnshire) as Blacks and Wells'. Belgian Flecks/Flegins/Flogens use almost the Pollock saltire, and look like they link to the Baez/Pelaiz Coat. This tells me that the Meschin and Fleck scallops link to Pollocks of the Fleck / Pelaiz kind that trace to Placentia.
It just occurred to me that the box in the Arms of Placentia, if indeed it is officially a box, may be code for the boxer symbol of Pollux. It amazing that this paragraph should be started right here after the Fleck topic, for it has just been discovered that the Arms of Placentia derive, apparently, from the Mendolia family. From a page entitled, "Coat Of Arms Of Piacenza," we find: "When did the Mendolia family his family from Milan to Rimini around this time, and was made Bishop of Piacenza." The Mendolia/Mendoza Coat uses "flags" in the colors of the Placentia square/box, and then "Flag" gets the Flecks. The surname evokes mythical Manto, said to have founded Mantua (northern Italy i.e. not far from Placentia). Mantua was the sister of Daphne, and daughter of Tiresias, father in-turn of Avaris-rooted Everes, the mythical shepherd seer. Avaris was the capital of the "Shepherd Kings" = Hyksos that I trace to Samsons.
The Flags/Flecks trace to the Samson surname with a "flag" buried in their motto, and besides, Flags/Flecks show same-colored scallops as Samsons. Scylla-rooted Samsons were first found in Glaucus-suspect Gloucestershire. The blue Samson lion may therefore be of the blue Placentia wolf. Here's another Mendoza Coat showing five white-on-red spade-like leaves (as the spades in a deck of cards). These are the colors of "Jewish" Pollocks.
Placentia had many Arms designs. Below is one showing the Napoleon bees in Chief; the white square (two of them) is on this Arms. We also see a white/silver wolf with tits like the Roman she-wolf. However, as Pollocks are tracing to HUNgarians, who trace themselves to Attila, it recalls several updates ago when the mythical blue wolf traced to the Huns. Alans worshiped / honored the dog, and their Dol location could trace to Attila's house of Dulo, you see. Gaunts and Banes use the wolf, both of whom were traced to the gonfanon banner (of Montforts). I now find that Medolia/Mendozas use flags...in the colors of the Montfort lion and gonfanon.
From the fourth update of May: Attila's brother, Bleda, now seems to have named the town of Bled in Slovenia, smack beside Gorje...and Lesce, the place to which I've traced the Leslies, otherwise known as HUNgarians! Bled is due north of Rijeka...What's that Hun-suspect HOUND dog doing in the Bleda-like Blate Crest?" I traced the Pollock saltire to one of the two British Frank Coats (Franks were first found in Shropshire), the other of which uses the saltire in the colors of the Blates...who smack of the Blazes...and of Blatand Bluetooth. Why "BLUE" tooth??? Is it code for blue fang of a blue wolf?
Admittedly, it seems contradictory, or at least difficult/illogical, to trace Blates (use white pheons, as with Pilates) both to Pontius Pilate and to "Bleda." Unless the Pollock-Stewart line bumped into the Pilate line, which I firmly believe it did.
One can see that the tail design in the Scottish Frank Crest (lion has two tails) is that of the Stewart / Ulman lion (houseofnames, and other heraldry sites that houseofnames follows in the steps of, may change these designs at any time). [A couple of days after I wrote here, the English Stewart page was loaded to find that the lion design has changed. I saw the Ulman lion design with my own eyes on several occasions, including the time when I was writing here. Do you think the heraldry masters, or at least the Vere-Stewarts, are reading tribwatch?]
ZOWIE! What an excellent time to find the Ulman lion design, for German Ulmans use the same two bars (Wassas and Nests use them too), in colors reversed, as the Mondolia/Mendoza Coat!!! These are the colors of the Mens/Menzies, by the way.
The two tails of the Wells lion suggests a trace to the two-tailed lion of Montforts, especially as Montforts took rule over Leicester from the Vieilles-rooted Beaumonts. It means that Wells' ought to trace to the Monforte / Montferrat region of Cuneo. As the Wells' "are conjecturally descended from Gilbert de Ghent," it supports a trace of the Montfort gonfanon to Gents / Gaunts. This trace to Piedmont again has the potential to trace the Wells / Wallaces to Guillestre. Julian-suspect Gilberts (Devon) use a Welsh motto; the same-colored chevron as Walch's; and the red squirrel of Decks (Prussia) who use the fleur-de-lys in the colors of the Glass fleur.
From emailer Pollock's message, it was assumed that Fulbert the Saxon wrote "Pollock" as "wynnP," which reads "Wllock." The Black-suspect Dutch Vlacks/Flachs use Black colors as well as the single Masci wing design (though Mascis don't necessarily own this wing design, they are important here because Flecks/Flacks use scallops in Meschin colors). The lion-head design of the Vlacks/Flachs is that of the Cheshire Davids.
It can be added that Scottish Walch's (Roxburghshire, Rockefeller-suspect location) use the RODam/RODham tree stump, and then the Rodham Coat likewise uses the same-colored bend as Davids, suggesting that David's "Haly Rod" was in honor of Rodhams and ilk. Very apparently, the Walch's use the Maxwell/MAKESwell saltire, and the latter should trace to Cheshire's Macclesfield/MAKESlesfield...that uses the same motto term, "copia," as the Welsh/Cheshire Davids. In fact, the Macclesfield surname uses David colors. The Rodham write-up: "There is also a Rodden river in Shropshire." I once saw the river flowing into the east side of lake Geneva stamped as the "Rotten" (apparently the German name for "Rhone"), and then the Devaud surname is tracing to Vaud on the north shores of that lake.
The Rodhams were traced to Rutland (beside Leicester) because the Rodham cinqueFOIL seems to me to be a black version of the Leicester cinquefoil. The Coat of the Bless', first found in Leicestershire, uses what should be a version of the Rodham Coat, and the three bunched arrows in the Bless Crest is a symbol of others that I trace to the three Kabar/Khazar tribes that made up the ten tribes of Hungarians. Reminder: both Pollocks and Welch's/Walch's use arrows, as do Bowers (Shield in the green color of the Pollock Shield) and Bauers>ROTHschilds whom I typically trace to the Khazar side of Hungarians. I even feel that Attila's Huns were Khazars of earlier centuries. For one, Khazars lived on the Atil/Itil river. In other words, while Rods and Roths are tracing here to the Rus side of Andrew I, some Pollock branches, such as Bless', trace themselves to his Khazar side. Even the Ander-like Enders use three arrows...in the colors of Andrew's Cross. We might even ask where Anders trace to Endor of Galilee.
Here's from an email to emailer Pollock. Note the Placentia-suspect Plessis:
...The Maxwell-related Walch's use "Numine" as code for Newmans who use the lions of the Raines that I trace to "Renfrew," but then the same colored lions are used by Plays/Plessis', who look like they could be a version of Polloss / Pollock. I looked up "Play" as per the Blay location of the Blazes [same Shield and Chief of Saluzzos, from near Monforte], who were from a Molay location; Moles were checked to find them first found in Roxburgh, which is where I trace Fullers / Fellers and Rockefellers.
...The latest discovery is that Glazes trace to Julians at Guillestre at the Cottian Alps adjacent to Aosta. I now find that Glaze's were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Blazes, and the two use a Shield-and-Chief colors in colors reversed from one another, one belonging to Cutters that I trace to Cottians, and the other belonging to Saluzzos who were Salyes Ligures in the Guillestre theater [at the Cottian mountains].
I didn't know at the time of writing this that the Mole boar is in the colors of the Gooch/Googe boars. I didn't yet know that "Gooch/Googe" was a variation of "Poke/Pogue."
Insert -- When this insert was started, I had no idea that it would reflect a Mall-versus-Mar theme that was already written immediately after this insert.
The Mole write-up traces to Margaret's son: "A branch of this distinguished family moved north in 1124 in the train of King David of Scotland (Earl David of Huntingdon) and were granted lands in the upper half of Morebattle in Roxburghshire." It jibes with the Moray stars in the Mole Coat, and then the Scottish More/Moor Coat uses the same stars as French Alans, begging the question of whether "Mole / Molay" were r-to-l switches from "More / Moray." Looks like [after this insert, the Mallibone/Marleybone surname is a topic].
In fact, I've just checked "Ashmore" to find it using lions in the colors of the Ashmole fleur. Moleover, the Ashmore motto term, "Cave," must be code for the Caves who use a black greyhound, symbol of the Ashmole crest. The Cave-suspect Chappes use Moor heads and Cave colors, thus revealing that we are on the Caiaphas bloodline here, very important not far below, where Ashmoles are shown to be, either a line to Ananias, or merged with an Ananias line.
I can tell you right off that Ashmoles trace to the same Salyes line as Cheneys, the latter highly suspect as the line from Khyan's Hyksos. I can also tell that the Ashmoles have to do with the Salines location to which I traced the royal Edwards, and that Cheneys were linked to the Maccabee elements of those Edwards. Cheneys were linked to the Salines location in the 1st update of June, where Edwards are also discussed. The Edwards were first found in the same place (Wiltshire) as Ashmores (Cheney colors) and Saids/Saddlers, and as the latter use the Mason/Macon lion, it's part of the evidence that royal Edwards trace to Salines, near Macon.
The point here has to do with my old trace of Saids/Saddlers to the Sais location of Chemmites near Sebannytos/Samannud, which place I identified with the Khyan/Apachnas line of Hyksos going through the Samson cult...and finally to Gloucestershire (i.e. Gileki > Glass bloodline), near Dorset and Wiltshire, the two places that Ashmores were first found in. Later in this update, I hope to get to the Cheney relationship with Russells, the latter first found in Dorset, and highly suspect with the Margaret > David line of "Haly Rod." Russells use the scallop colors of the Samson scallops.
At the time of making the trace of Saids to "Sais," I traced the Says and Seatons/Satans of Saytown to the same location. Ashmoles were first found in the same place (Staffordshire) as Stubbs that are clearly a branch of Stubbings, and moreover Ashmoles use the colors of the Stubbing besants, a symbol of Apachnas-suspect Bucking(ham)s, named after the place where Cheneys were first found (both Stubbings and Buckings use their besants on a bend). It's 666-important here that the Stubbing besants are in the colors of the Treeby besants, for the 666 bloodline has already been identified with the Hyksos. The Shield of Stewart-suspect Stubbings is that of the Say Shield, you see, and Stubbings even show a "QuiesCAM" motto as code for their Chemmite line (the Kemmis surname was first found in the same place as the Samson surname, and as Chemmites were proto-Danaans, the Dan entity to which Samson is affiliated in Judges is likely in play). Stubbings were first found in Essex, the location of CAMelot/CAMulodunum. Moreover, while Cheneys use a "bull's scalp" in Crest, Says use a black bull head.
STUNNING!!!!!! I had traced the mythical lion goddess (Bast) of the Uat/BUTO cult of Chemmites to the gold lion in the Arms of BudaPEST. It was a reasonable trace, supported by other factors. Budapest was a city of Attila the Hun, meaning that Pollocks/Alans of Dol should now trace to Attila's house of Dulo at Budapest. It was extremely fortunate that I looked up the Arms of Budapest for you just now, which was to mention only it's gold lion trace to Bast, and to point out that Ashmores use gold lions too, wherefore I feel that Ashmores trace to Budapest. It was at this time that I saw, not just a single star in the Arms of Budapest in the colors of the lone BUTTeri star and of the Glass stars, but the Budapest star is on a wavy bend in the colors of the wavy "Jewish" Pollock bend!!! Until recently, the Pollock bend was with a gentler wave than it is showing now, i.e. more like the Budapest wave.
There are a few more points to make before ending this insert. The Budapest under Attila was reportedly called SiCAMBRia, a term that should trace to Cambria, the entity after which the Welsh-Cymbri are named after. This recalls that Pollocks were found to be a Glass bloodline of the Walch/Welch kind. It's telling me that the Chemmites of Budapest had merged with Attila, and then brought royal Attila blood to Cambria / Wales. As to why the city should be called, "SICambria, the sickle / Scylla 666-line to Szekelys comes to mind, who were Khazars (suspected Attila kin) on the Mures that trace to Mores and Moray...and therefore to AshMORES whose gold lion I am in the midst of tracing to the Budapest lion.
Reminder: Ashmore-related Moles use Moray stars and are written up as kin to Huntingdon, where I trace the 666-suspect Traby bugle. The crown of the Budapest Arms is said to be that of king Stephen in particular, whom should trace to "Staf(ford)," where AshMoles and Chemmite Stubbs were first found. It seems a no-brainer here that "Stub" is ultimately a "Stephen > Staf" variation. Stephens (pelicans) were first found in Gloucestershire, and use a chevron evoking the Chappes chevron, suggesting that Stephens link to the caves and .
The Stubbs Coat shows white pheons, the colors of the Blate pheons, a surname smacking of "Bleda," Attila's brother. AGAIN: the green Blate Shield must be the green Pollock Shield because Blates use the Scottish Frank saltire that traces to Pollocks as per English Franks using the Pollock-colored saltire. Pollocks and Glass' are now tracing to Hyksos in a merger with the disgusting Attila Huns, the human beasts of the earth. Don't forget for the short-term that this line was in blue-wolf Placentia, where Ananias' ancestry came out of; all of these clues can be used in a final analysis for understanding the Ananias and Anti-Christ=Gog bloodline.
Now that "Jewish" Pollocks are tracing to Bleda the Hun, recall the Bless surname (bend in Pollock-bend colors) above, for the Bleda-suspect Bleds show Bles / Blees variations.
The Bleds were first found in BOURGundy, and use the triple chevron in colors reversed from the same of Dutch Burgs. "Jewish" Bergs use a stag in the colors of the "Jewish" Pollock bend now tracing to the Budapest Arms. It's telling me that the antlers of the Contes were for the Attila ancestry of Hungarians, for the Contes became the Contevilles from John de Burgo. It's telling me that Hun blood was in Languedoc, where Contes and Villes were first found. If Attila was named after the Atil/Itil river where Khazars / Khosars ruled, not that de Burgos-Conteville line married the Goz family in producing Ranulph le Meschin. The Bless Crest is three bunched arrows, suggesting the Khazar side of the Hungarian tribes. More and more, it appears that Attila's Huns were Khazars, perhaps even the money bags behind the forthcoming Khazar empire. The proto-Hungarian Magyars were allied to Khazars of that empire.
There is some serious noise of the static kind in my brain here, where Bledas/Bles' were first found in the same place (Burgundy) as Pilates while the Burgundy Pilates use white pheons, the color of the Blate pheons. It's suggesting that Pilates were Blates and Bledas, from Bleda the Hun, not from Pontius Pilate. The Pillettes even use grails, a symbol of the Arpad Hungarians. Yet, other evidence suggests strongly that the Pilate pheon was in Perthshire, where Pontius Pilate was reportedly born. Moreover, there are Caiaphas and Ananias overtones in the Bleda lines under discussion. I am sloth to suggest here that the ancestry of Attila and his brother was in the Pontius-Pilate line, but that's one option for later investigation.
For now, it's important to realize that Templarism does trace to the Huns. This is where the Caves > Chappes line that Hugh de Payen married comes in, especially if "pheon" is code for the Payen term / bloodline. I'm not going to abandon my trace of the Caves / Capes' / Chappes' to "Caiaphas" and the Sheaves/Chiava/Chiapponi bloodline. It's in this paragraph that the Pilate pheon strongly traces to the Sheaves/Shaws of Perthshire, who, like the Pillettes, use grails (in the same colors). We may find that the Arpad Hungarians had the blood-oath grail from a line of Israel's chief priests in their ancestry. After all, Ananias was traced not many updates ago to proto-Khazars of pre-Christian times...that may have furnished Attila's Huns in the 5th century AD. I traced proto-Hungarians to the Ticino river, and it's this trace to northern Italy that can make it possible for Attila to trace to Pontius Pilate, as nutty as that sounds. I'm just following what heraldry is telling me.
One would now think that the stag of Rollos (Perthshire), who use the Celt/Colt stag showing the Pilate pheon in colors reversed, traces to Bleda the Hun. The fact that Rollo Sinclair must be related to the Clares using the Bled/Bless triple chevron in colors reversed is adding weight to the Templar / Rollo trace to the Bleda Huns (Rollo's vikings were primary Templars). In fact, the Scandinavian Rus whom came pirating in the land of Khazars must have been the Rus in Rollo's ancestry, later the Varangians who established themselves at Kiev. The message I'm getting here is that the so-called Red Jews who ruled the Khazar empire were from the stock of Huns who became the "Jewish" Pollocks, especially if it's true that the green Pollock / Bled Shield is that of the Bowers / Bauers = proto-Rothschilds. It's explaining why Rothschilds traced previously both to Khazars and to Hungarians, as there may be no great difference between Attila's Huns and Khazars. End Insert]
I'm now taken up by the following conclusion: Pollocks trace to the Israeli high priest, Ananias/Hanan, out of Placentia's Ananes. Here's how. First, while searching for the official name of the Placentia's square/box (I was unsuccessful) earlier this morning, I got to a page on the "apellido Placentia" (means "Placentia surname"), seeing there a dolphin that evoked the Marley dolphin, the Shield of which I trace to the Meschin Shield. So far, that's right on down the Pollock track, especially as Marleys are said to be from "Morlaix, in Brittany." Then, at the sight of "Mole," I recalled the Mall surname that gets the Mallibones/MARLYbones, and it just so happens that the Mall/Marlybone Shield is nearly identical to that of the Irish Hanans. [It's the Stubbing Shield too, who linked in the insert above to AshMores and Stubb-related AshMoles.]
JUST REALIZED: the Marley bend is in the colors of the same of Gripps and Walters...who trace to Brittany [the Stubb bend could apply]. Another realization, my chipmunk friend has just eaten the bits of fish, but is leaving the pecans behind as though offended that I should offer nuts to a chipmunk. Yes, the chipmunk just walked in and was eating fish as I wrote the last line, and then the Chip Coat uses small Shields (inescutcheons), as may the Arms of Placentia. The Square surname even uses squirrels, as do the Decks that trace to the same Ticino river, part of the next realization. That is, the Voirs/Boyers of Gripel use "St. Marks" lion for a code reason, to be sure, and I trace Marks to the Marici partners of the Laevi who together founded Ticinum/Pavia.
The Voirs can thus be linked to Stewarts out of Dol because "Jewish" Marks use the Stewart-Boyd Coat while French Marks use the Stewart checks...on a green Shield that could be the Pollock Shield, though, as French Alans use stars in Bauer-star colors, the Mark Shield is more-likely that of the Scottish Bowers...not saying at all that it couldn't also be the Pollock Shield, for French Marks were first found in the same place (Languedoc) as Roquefeuils...who did historically use a green Shield (I have that recorded somewhere in the past few months, roughly where I first traced Pollocks to Fullers).
The chipmunk just took a WALnut out of my hand, the second time in two days straight, but this time it let me touch/rub (first time) its front legs as it stood eating it. I wasn't going to mention the walnut tree in the English Wooler/Waller Crest until now. Walnut leaves are on a black bend that could be the Gripp / Walter bend. One of the trees on the Placentia-surname page above looks a little like the Woller/Waller walnut, but in any case, note that the page shows a "Gimer" surname at the bottom of one of the Placentia Shields. Perhaps it's not coincidental that the Gimer motto uses "flectes," for Flecks / Vlacks/Flacks just traced to the Pollock bloodline. The "Frangas" motto term of the Gimers thus suggests the Franks that use the Pollock saltire. The implication of the Vlack topic led to "Plac(entia)." The Gimer Coat even uses ravens. The surname is shown properly as Kimber/Kember, and could be in honor of "Cymbri," what the Welch call themselves.
There's something gnawing at me (no not the chipmunk). While looking at the white-on-black stars of the Gimers/Kimbers, the Beacons/Bacon stars came to mind, though they are colors reversed, and I don't see heraldic evidence for links aside from that. But it was gnawing at me, for the beacon-using Fullers must link to Beacons/Bacons (Pollock-style boar), you see, and as William Shakespeare has been thought (by others) to have been Francis Bacon in disguise, I was asking myself concerning the double-tipped Shakespeare spear used also by German Marks. Only after that did I realize that Shakespeares were first found in the same place as walnut-using Wollers/Wallers.
After conceiving the paragraph above in full, the Shakespeare Coat was loaded for you, and there was the black Grip / Walter / Marley bend! Moreover, this tends to prove that the black Woller/Waller bend is the same bend. It appears that Fullers and Wollers/Wallers were one.
Quite often, a spear is "broken" as code for the Broke/Brock-branch Stewarts, but in the case of the Gimers/Kimbers, the motto uses: "Thou may'st break, but shalt not bend me." The Brakes/Brechs (hunting horns) just happen to have been first found in Shropshire, and then French Brians, who trace to Briancon/Brigantium as should Brakes/Brechs, were first found in Brittany. It's the English Brians who are suspect with the Traby bugle in particular. Shakespeares use "sanz," and Brians "sans," in their respective mottos. For me this suggests the Sinclair branch in the Candies of Savoy / Cottians.
Therein ends the Pollock-Glass-Wallace discussion, or so I thought.
The Pollockian Roman Emperor, and Childeric
It is high time to go back to bits and pieces that were intended for earlier updates, but not yet published due to other topics squeezing them out. The first item at the top of the lagging-behind bits and pieces is the sentence below, prepared weeks ago for the Covert-Hof topic in Swabia, at which time I arrived to the Allgau area of Swabia. The first thing I had jotted down was: "OberALLGAU looks like it has white rocks." The reason that "white rocks" was jotted down was for Allgau linkage to the white rocks used by Roques/Rocks > Roquefeuils...who just happen to be (in my mind) the line to Fulbert the Saxon (read as FEUILbert) and Fullers. Yes, the Pollocks.
Ask how Pollocks can be Poles if they trace to Hungarians. King Stephen's father "married his brother's widow Adelajda sister of Prince Mieszko I of Poland c. 985. He repudiated his first wife Sarolta shortly after 975." Sarolt was a Khazar of the Mures river, and likely links to the Ashmores et-al just traced to Pollocks. If it looks here as though Pollocks can trace to Stephen instead of king Andrew, the latter did not come long (less than 50 years) to the Hungarian throne after king Stephen. Stephen's father, Geza, smacks of "Khazar."
Interesting here is that "Staufer" is said to mean "grail bearer," suggesting that Stephen (an Arpad bloodliner) had continued the Arpad grail-cult oaths. The (Hohen)Staufen Khazars use a quartered Shield that I've linked in the past to that of Bavarian Ottingers (should be the same as Bavarian Oettingens), and then the latter use a Shield in colors reversed to that of Ashmoles, first found in STAFfordshire. King Stephen had married Judith of Bavaria.
Again, I trace "Stubbing" (Staffordshire) to king "Stephen," and then the "QUIEScam" motto of Stubbings was traced to the Kwisa/Queis river in Lusatia, while that river was gleaned as the root of "Gewisse," the Saxon name for Wessex. As Hungarians are suspect at the red antler in the Arms of Spree-Neisse (Lusatia), and as Spree-related Speers were first found in the same place as Pollocks, it's telling me that the Hungarian side of Pollocks traces to Lusatia's Saxon bloodline. It jibes with Fulbert "the Saxon."
Oettingens use a saltire, not only in the colors of the flag of King Stephen, but in those of the "Jewish" Pollock bend (= half a saltire). It's telling me that OETtingens / Ottingers trace to the UAT/Buto cult at Budapest, where the Pollock bend is now tracing. It recalls my trace of the Bavarian WITTelsbachs to the Arms of Budapest. This new find that Pollocks were an Oettingen line out of Budapest is verifying my trace of the Pollock motto term, "Audacter," to HOODs and related Audleys because I traced Oettingers to same-colored Odins/HODDys of Yorkshire. Keep in mind here that Swabia and Allgau are in Bavaria.
Odins are said to be descended from AuMALEs, smacking of the Pollock-branch Moles, and then the Aumale Coat is a white-on-red bend, the "Jewish" Pollock symbol!!! The Aumale Coat even uses the crosslets of Windsors, and the latter are traced to Others/Oders (see the latter's write-up), who are thus revealed as Oettingers / Odins/Hoddys...the satanic line from the Uat/Buto cult.
Others/Oders were even first found in Huntingdon, where Moles had their holdings! Plus, recalling the Ashmole versus Ashmore variation of the same family, or the Mallibone versus Marlybone variations, the Aumales are also AuMARle.
Let me repeat what was said earlier to make what should be an important point:
The Bleds were first found in BOURGundy, and use the triple chevron in colors reversed from the same of Dutch Burgs. "Jewish" Bergs use a stag in the colors of the "Jewish" Pollock bend now tracing to the Budapest Arms. It's telling me that the antlers of the Contes were for the Attila ancestry of Hungarians, for the Contes became the Contevilles from John de Burgo. It's telling me that Hun blood was in Languedoc, where Contes and Villes were first found. If Attila was named after the Atil/Itil river where Khazars / Khosars ruled, not that de Burgos-Conteville line married the Goz family in producing Ranulph le Meschin.
By what coincidence is it that king GEZA had married the sister (Adelajda) of Mieszko, while Mieszkos trace to Meschins, while Ranulf le Meschin was a Goz on one side? As Pollocks are routinely traced to the Meschin bloodline, it's now telling me that Meschins were from Hungarians of the Geza kind; likely from children of Geza with Adelajda. This does not at all contradict my trace of "Goz" to "Gascony," for I had traced the Oettingen saltire to an old flag of Gascony, and besides, the Gisburn location of Odins/Hoddys traced to Gascony (the Gisburns use a garb, symbol of both Meschin's Cheshire and Gascony). It just so happens that the Odin/Hoddy lion is in the design, and colors reversed from, the Ville lion, while Villes contributed to the Conteville line to the Goz ancestry of le Meschin.
It explains why the German Goz surname (using the same chevron as Maceys) was first found in the same place (Bavaria) as Oettingens, and possibly why the Ottinger Coat is in the colors of the Meschin Coat. Thus, Meschins are from that despicable line of Huns, outsiders who sought to subject all of Europe to their exploitation purposes. [When I get to an extremely-important stork symbol below, remember that the Oettingens were a stork line according to legend.]
The Macey Shield is also used by Paisleys of Renfrew, and these may have been a branch of the Baez/Paez/Pelaiz surname using half the Pollock saltire. This could potential trace the Goz line to Pollocks, what would be expected if Pollocks were from the Geza > Stephen line.
Moving on now to the Allgau topic again, let's not forget that "ALLgau" is suspect as an Alan Hun entity and could thereby explain Pollock bloodliners at Allgau...which elements have just been revealed as Oettingens. The next piece has been sitting waiting for publication for some weeks now: "Allgau (Kempten is the capital) is on the Lech river. Kemps are in Campbell colors." While Campbells/Cammells trace to the Pepin camel, it just so happens that Odins/Hoddys use the Pepin horse, and besides, Pepins were traced big-time to the Swabia theater back when Swabia was the topic. The point is, the Odin/Hoddy horse is tracing Oettingens to Allgau's capital city, KEMpten, which is expected where Oettingens are defined as Uat-cult CHEMites, for I trace them to Camulodunum.
We read: "In medieval times Kempten was a free imperial city, and the surrounding lands became subordinate to the lords of Staufen and the counts of Rothenfels." The raven-depicted Rothes of Bavaria seem to be in play here, for the Rothesay location conquered by raven-depicted vikings is at the Argyll theater of Campbells. It appears that Stephen-suspect Staufens were merged in Bavaria with Pollock-suspect proto-Rothschilds, jibing with a trace of Pollocks to king Stephen. It's widely known that the earliest Pollocks proper of Renfrew (on the mainland facing out to Rothesay) were of the Rothes entity there. You understand that the Staufens became the Hohenstaufen Khazars while Rothschilds are traced by many these days to Khazars.
There was an OBERallgau and an UNTERallgau, and while these terms are said to mean, OVER and UNDER, it sure does smack of the Hebrew-Ebur and HUNter bloodline(s). As per the Arms of Unterallgau: "The rose in the left of the coat of arms is the symbol of the abbey of OttoBEUREN, which ruled the southern part of the district. The fleur-de-lys in the right stands for the Fugger family..." Clicking to the Fugger article, we find them linked to Welsers, who smack of the Pollock-related Walsers, and moreover both Fuggers and Welsers were banking giants like Pollock-related Rothschilds: "Welser is the surname of an important German banking and merchant family, originally from Augsburg. Along with the Fugger family, the Welser family controlled various sectors of the European economy, and accumulated enormous wealth through trade and the German colonization of the Americas."
Both the Austrian Fuggers and Bavarian Walsers use an upright black goat. Dutch Walsers/Welsers are also "Felser." Then, to help prove that Walsers were from the Lys valley in Aosta, German Welsers use a fleur-de-lys half in the colors of the Lys fleur. Welsers use a Shield split in half in the colors of the split Shield of Walsers, and by the way, if we take the two-tailed mermaid from the Walser Coat, what remains is the flag of Poland (important because the Arms of Warsaw uses the mermaid).
As Boggers are a line suspect between the Ukraine and Fife, the Welser fleur looks to be that of Polish Packs: "First found in Polesie, the largest province of Poland. It is inhabited by Ruthenians, called Polesians, of Ukrainian descent [italics mine]....It was in this province that the renowned Radziwills and Sapiehas held their vast estates. Wolczyn was the seat of the Czartoryski family." The latter surname appears rooted in "Tory," and entering that term gets a clan first found in Warwickshire, what I trace to "Warsaw."
The Arms of Fugger use a blue-on-gold fleur, the colors of the fleur used by the Spanish Roman Coat. This is said because I'm now tracing Augsburg (the location of Fuggers too) to Augustus Caesar. Call it a hunch. Walsers / Welsers are playing a Julian tune to my senses here, especially the Julians out of Guillestre. And Fuggers honored Childeric, the family that popularized the fleur-de-lys, a lily:
Hans Fugger's younger son, Jakob the Elder, founded another branch of the family, This branch progressed more steadily and they became known as the "Fuggers of the Lily" after their chosen arms of a flowering lily on a gold and blue background. Jakob was a master weaver, a merchant [the first Rothschilds was a banker but also into cotton / clothing], and an alderman, and married Barbara Basinger, the daughter of a goldsmith.
A Fugger of the lily married a BASINger? Didn't Childeric marry Basina? As Fuggers lived in the same place as Bogens, I suspected that Boggers were a Fugger branch, and that's when a white-on-red chevron popped up, the symbol of the Childeric-suspect Chills/Childs. Entering "Basinger" gets the English Basings, first found in the same place (Kent) as Caesars/Sesares, and using eagles in the black-on-gold colors of the Roman eagle (which, if I recall correctly, are the colors of the Guillestre eagle). I had traced Childeric recently to the Julian-Roman line. This paragraph is excellent evidence for a trace of the Clovis fleur to the Lys valley in Aosta, and to the Walsers there.
It was years ago when the Bogens (known to have granted their lozenges to Wittelsbachs who in turn transferred them to the Arms of Bavaria) were traced (by me) to Bauers and Bowers, an easy assumption from the Bogen bow symbol, and because "bogen" means "bow" in German. Rothschilds issued forth from Bauers, and Rothschilds use arrows too, suggesting that the Bogen bow-and-arrow theme goes back to Hungarians. In this picture, Bogger-suspect Fuggers were proto-Rothschilds of sorts, or at least banking kin of Mayer Bauer, the first Rothschild. My senses are telling me that the Bogger chevron is also that of the Dutch Bones (another fleur in the colors of the Lys fleur), and that the Bolgy variation of Boggers therefore traces the family to Bologna/Bononia. Fuggers and Bogens, Bauers and Bowers, should also trace to that location. The Boii are implicated.
There is a good chance that the money bags of the Bavarian Illuminati can be found somewhere down the Fugger path. What I'm seeing here is that the Biblical dragon cult, which must always trace to Veneti of the Merovingian kind, is tracing also to Julian Romans, another must for the dragon cult, and to the Hun > Hungarian line of scythians, the Gog-Magog factor. In each of these three categories, there are many sub-entities involved.
As it's now suspect that the Geza > Stephen line of Hungarians should trace to Allgau, and especially to UNTERallgau, the following line might be revelatory: "The [Unterallgau] district started a partnership with the Polish Gostyn County in 2001." The Gostyn entity, which smacks of the Gois variation of the Goz', was the one traced to associations with the Sadowskis:
...Unless Mrs. Taylor was given a bad steer, Anthony Sadowski came from the clan with the Nalecz coat of arms [that's the 'Q' seen in the Traby/Sadowski Coat]. His father, Martin Sadowski, kept closer ties to Gostyn, a town in west central Poland [same city as the quote above], than to Sadowie where the clan apparently originated at least two centuries before. He was a chamberlain of Gostyn in the time of King Wladislaus IV...
This is telling me that Trabys/Sadowskis should be expected in Gostyn. To support a trace of Gostyn to the Goz bloodline of Ranulph le Meschin, the Ville part of the Contevilles was traced to Vilnius, the rulers of which merged with Trabys. But I'd like to get to something more relevant.
The Trabys/Sadowski's were first found in L'viv, in the Ukraine's Red Rus area, founded by Varangians of Kiev. In the last update, elements of L'viv were traced to Vivians > Fifes of Fife, where the Boggers were first found! That exclamation mark is just to wake you up. You don't know yet why it's being used. But just read this: "The founder of the [Fugger] family was Johann Fugger, a weaver at Graben, near the Swabian Free City of Augsburg." It just so happens that the Hebrons, who lived in CHILLingham, use the same chevron as Chills/Childs and Boggers, and that the "Keep" motto term of Hebrons (suspect with the Varangian namers of Kiev) is code for the Keep surname using a "weaver's shuttle"!!! Now you know.
It means that: 1) Fuggers were Boggers; 2) Fuggers do trace to CHILDERic and Basina; 3) Fuggers were part of the Shuttleword surname that likewise uses a weaver's shuttle. It also verifies that the Fuggers and Boggers/Bolgys trace to Bononia, for I traced Skull and Bones (the surnames as well as the cult) from the Eschol valley at Israel's Hebron to Bononia. The latter location is an excellent place to trace Childeric (probably the first historical Merovingian), not only because Merovingians claimed to derive in the Veneti, but because Childeric had gold bees in his grave, quite apparently code for the Boii of Bononia.
Now look at the "Utile dulce" motto of the Shuttlewords. Do you see Attila? As it appears that the weavers shuttle of Shuttlewords links to the Fugger weaving industry, can we prove the Shuttle-Weaver link further? Yep. But first, wasn't it conjectured that Fuggers were Rothschilds somehow, thus tracing Fuggers and Shuttlewords to Hungarians and Khazars, and therefore to the Attila Huns to which Hungarians trace themselves?
What could the "dulce" term be for, if not for the Doleys/Dulles' of Doly in the L'viv theater (see "Doly" in last update)? Didn't we just see Fuggers, especially the Boggers of Fife, tracing to L'viv? As the Doley/Dulles Coat is identical to the Biggar Coat, doesn't it suggest that Boggers were Biggars...which makes a trace of Boggers / Fuggers to "Biharia" of Transylvania (Hungarian-border region)? That's where the Mures river is to which I trace Merovingians.
One could get the impression that Childeric was a Khazar of the Attila kind from the Mures (in this picture, Khazars were on the Mures much earlier than the Khazar empire). In fact, Childeric lived at the time that Attila was making a road for his dirty rats to France. If the Shuttleword motto is evidence of an Attila presence in Biharia, and moreover because the so-called Sicambrian Franks (part of the Merovingians) were named after Budapest's alternative name, might we glean an Attila marriage/alliance with a Sicambrian Frank on the Mures to produce mythical or historical Merovee, the father of the Childeric Merovingians?
Perhaps that contradicts the Childeric trace to the Boii of Bononi, but then it may have been his wife alone, Basina, who traced to the Boii. After all, the Bessins use bees too.
I don't know my Attila history well at all, for I cannot stomach reading about the devil. In Wikipedia's article on Attila, where he seeks to take France while Childeric is already crowned, we read nothing of Childeric. And in Wikipedia's article on Childeric, nothing on Attila. We read that both Childeric and Attila made war against the Goths, however, which could suggest a Childeric alliance with Attila. We read that Attila had an alliance with the Roman emperor (Valentinian III), even marrying his sister, HONoria (smacks of a Hun term), and then it's known that early Merovingians developed an alliance with Roman emperors. In Wikipedia's article on mythical Merovee/Merovech (reported father of Childeric), he's an ally of a Roman faction against Attila. But that Roman faction, led by general Aetius, was itself in alliance with Attila.
I think fate has just found the proto-Pollocks in Placidia, mother of Valentinian. The first clue came in "PULCHeria," Placidia's sister. These two women so smack of the Placentia and Pollock topic that it got my attention enough to enter "Valent"...to find a white-on-red bend, the colors of the bend used by "Jewish" Pollocks. The Valent bend even has green squirrels, the color of the Scottish Pollock Shield. Then, as entering "Squirrel" gets the Square surname, let's not forget that the Arms of Placentia uses a square (though I don't know the official name) in Pollock / Valent colors .
Pollocks are said to trace to Clovis, and so we can readily see here the potential for a Valentinian line to form an alliance with the Childeric > Clovis line, thus inserting Placidia's blood to the Clovis line. Valentinian named his daughter, Placidia.
Aetius and Valentinian were not getting along in the end. A couple of years after Attila went to Hell to reap his well-earned reward: "In 454 Aetius, whose son had married Valentinian's youngest daughter, Placidia, was murdered by Valentinian on 21 September 454." The next year, Hun agents of Aetius killed Valentinian. Clovis was not yet on the Frank throne. I'm trying to find details on the relationship between Valentinian and the Franks, but am not finding them.
The great-grandfather of Valentinian was Valentinian I, husband of Justina, daughter of Justis. It may not be coincidental that the Justin sword is the Shot/Shutes/SHUTT sword, or that Justins were first found in Perthshire and Angus, the theater in which the Fugger-branch Boggers were first found who were just linked to SHUTTlewords. It just so happens that Shots/Shutes were found in the sling shot of the Arms of Dachau while Decks use the red Squirrel/Square squirrel. German Shutts/Schuetts use a gold saltire, the color of the Pollock saltire. While Pollocks were found to be merged with Moles, the Shutt/Schuett Crest is a black greyhound, symbol also of the AshMOLE Crest.
Now watch this. Valentinian I was son of Gratian the Elder, who smacks of Valerius Gratus, the Roman governor of Judea/Jerusalem immediately before Pontius Pilate. There is reason to believe that the two governors were related to the birth of Pilate in the Perthshire area, as for example the French Valery/Valliers Coat uses a chevron in the chevron colors of the Perthshire Rollos, or that Rollo married Poppa of Valois while the Valois surname (suspect as of this update to be the Pollock line of Wallis/Wallis) is also "Valour." It's starting to look as though the Pollock trace through the Valentinian bloodline leads back to Valerius Gratus and/or Pontius Pilate blood at Perthshire.
I just clicked to the Gratian-the-Elder article to find: "During his youth, Gratianus obtained the cognomen Funarius, meaning 'the rope-man' because he was a rope salesman." I'm stressing the FUNARius term because, in the first update of December, 2011, it was said: "Scottish and English Robins use a 'funera' motto term, too close to 'Faunus' to be coincidence." Faunus was the Roman cult of Pan under discussion at the time. The point here is that: 1) both Robins and Pollock-suspect Paisleys use blue thistles; 2) Robins use a chevron in colors reversed to the Valery chevron; French Robins, first found in Brittany where Pollock roots are expected, use white pheons, the color of the Pilate pheons.
There was a surname that was either viewed by me during this update, or shown to you in the update, with a funera-like motto term as well as an additional term smacking of "pheon." I can't recall the surname. No wait. I just recalled the spelling of the term, "foenus," and in my files it comes up as the motto term of Moles!!! Yes. Plus, here's the entire Mole motto: "POST funera foenus," while Robins use "VIVet POST funera virtus," possibly code for the Perthshire-area trace to Vivians and L'viv. Earlier, the Paisleys were suspect with various surnames using the Moray stars, and these are used also by Moles...who were shown to be an l-version More / Moray line.
JUST FAUND!!! The white-on-blue star is used even by the Fauns/Vauns/Phones!
In this picture, "pheon" could trace to "Faunus," the goat cult of Romans. In fact, as the pheon looks like the ermine, by what coincidence was Hermes made the father of the Pan goat? I'll remind that the pheon is suspect in the Fien/Vain/Fane surname so that the Fane variation may tattle of a line from Faunus.
Assuming that the Funarius nick-name of Gratian was carried forward to the Rope and/or Roper surname, what about the blue-on-white pheons in the Rope Coat?!?! They are not only colors reversed from the Pilate pheons, but in the colors of the Celts/Colt pheon that shows beside the same-style stag as the Rollo stag (see midway down the page).
The Ropers show a Frank-like term in their motto, perhaps code for the Pollock-Frank relationship. Both the Franks using the Pollock saltire and the Ropers show an eagle of the same design roughly. The Roper Crest is described, "A gold blazing star,: and we can figure that "blazing" was added as code. Pollocks had been traced to the Blaze surname, using a saltire in the colors of the Julian / Maxwell / Kilpatrick saltire. Kilpatricks were Butteri, and the Botter "eagle" is used by Ropers.
It looks incredibly true that Pollocks trace to Gratian the Elder, a Roman ruler in Brittania. His official ancestry is apparently unknown or not available to the public. One wonders why he was appointed to Brittania. Did he have kin there? The Grate/Cree/Rae Coat uses stars in Glass-star colors and the fesse colors of the Romes/Roams and Augusts, and could therefore apply to the Gratian line.
As Fuggers / Boggers were in the Perthshire theater, what if they turned out to be Pollocks? Reminder: "The founder of the [Fugger] family was Johann Fugger, a weaver at Graben..." The Gripp/Grabner surname was already traced to the Pollock branch of Walters. Pollocks, Wittelsbachs, and Bogens alike were traced to Budapest, and as the latter two carried the Bavarian lozenges, it could be added that the Bavarian lozenges could trace way back to GARIBald of Bavaria, possibly named after Grabfeld of Bavaria, home of Poppo I, possible relative of Poppa of Valois, suspected Valerius-Gratus bloodliner.
Pollocks are shown also as "Polk," and then there is a FOLGer/Fulker/Fuche/Fuge/Foucar surname that could apply to Fuggers...because it uses a bend in colors reversed to the Pollock bend. There are Pilate-suspect plates on the bend, and so let's not forget that the Blates use Pilate-colored pheons on a Pollock-colored green Shield. It's possible here that Fuggers were a Pollock branch tracing to the Gratian > Valentinian line, itself going back to the Roman governors of Jerusalem. The Faunce / Vaunce variations of the Fauns/Phones may give hint that the Vance/Vaux/Vallibus surname applies to the Gratian line of Funarius, which uses a bend in the colors of the Folgers/Fuges.
In that picture, the Vallibus = Wells bloodline could trace to the VALentinian and/or VALerius entity. The Roman "Val" can be identical to what others would call, Gal, and then both the Evances and Galens use the same colored upright lion. "Galer," looked up as per "Valer," use the colors of the lions above, but more-importantly colors reversed from the Valery surname; the latter is shown properly as Vallier, while the Galer page shows "Galliard." The latter surname was first found in the same place (Devon) as Fauns/Vaunces/Phones, which place I trace to Daphne and Dauphine, where Valerys/Valliers were first found.
It just dawned on me that "fleur" is code for this Vallier bloodline. In fact, the earliest fleur-de-lys, or rather the proper French fleur-de-lys (for example, as used by Anjou, where Fulks ruled), came to be in the colors of the Valliers. Of interest here is that the French Fleur surname uses a Coat that could be construed as a version of the Nero Coat (both use "vair fur").
Zowie, the Dutch Fleur/Flers Coat is showing the Pollock bugle, in the same colors of the Pollock bugle, and in the colors, not only of the Pollock bend, but of the Lys fleur. It is therefore somewhat compelling to trace "Valerius" to "Valentin(ian)"... and while we're at it, to the Feller / Fuller bloodline of Pollocks (Fellers use a chevron in colors reversed from the Valery/Vallier chevron). The Pollock-Wallace line to Walsers (from the Lys valley) must definitely apply here to the Fleur surname.
The impression received from the Dutch branch of Fleurs is the involvement of Dutch Mackays using the Massey Shield, for Masseys also use the fleur in Lys-fleur colors. I wasn't going to mention this Fleur link to Dutch Masseys...until I saw the Massey/Macey pegasus in the Valentine Crest! The Valentine chevron (white, like that of the Childs) is in the colors of the Balance eagle and the Ballant/Balan fesse...showing Pilate-suspect "pellets". It took years to realize that the spread popular Adler eagle uses the Masci wing design. The Balance eagle is white, the color of the Faun/Vaunce/Phone eagle, and the color of the Masci wing. The Meschin- and Pollock-related Vlacks/Flacks use the Masci wing in Balance eagle colors.
It's looking like both Pollocks and their Masci kin are tracing to the Gratian=Funarius > Valentinian bloodline. This line is suspect as the Pan > Faunus line which can trace to the heraldic ermines owned by Vannes (Brittany), and indeed I've read evidence that the Fiens/Vains/Fanes trace to "Vannes" (Brittany). Reminder: the Fiens/Vains/Fanes use the Macey GAUNTlet gloves, as do the Sions/Swans that could trace to Sion/Sitten in the Wallis/Valais canton that named the Walsers...and the Fugger-related Welsers who use the Lys / Massey fleur.
The Valance/Valant surname uses a red rose in Crest, possibly the red rose of the Caesars/Sesares that were first found in the same place (Kent) as the Valences/Valants and Gaunts. There's a good chance here that, where Val terms could also be Gal terms, the Fauns / Fanes and Gaunts are identical. Gaunts and Ghents are suspect as the wife of king Arthur, and he traces to the Lys river/valley of Artois, though I identify him as Merovingians in Britain. It just so happens that while the Arthurs are easily pegged as a branch with Waynes, the latter use an ermined chevron in Child colors (i.e. it traces Waynes to Childeric). That's Vannes-important because Waynes use the gauntlet glove of Fiens/Vains/VEYNs/Fanes.
Keep in mind for the discussion below that Massins/Masons of Kent trace to Massa-Carrara (Tuscany) near the location that Neros were first found in, for both the Nero phoenix cult and the Masseys trace to Lake Van's Mus / Taran area.
The Italian Floris and Spanish Floras both use fleur-de-lys (in the colors of the Masci / Anjou fleur), and moreover it should trace the Lys / Fleur line to "Florence" (Tuscany), near the place where Neros were first found, and near also to Velch (Tuscany), the location that I trace Fulks to. In other words, the Flora goddess of Florence should be at the roots of the Valentinian / Fleur / Valerius bloodline. Important here is that the Taddei surname was, not only first found in Florence, but uses a so-called flory cross (with fleur-de-lys ends) in the colors of the Lys / Massey fleur.
As Fuggers traced themselves to the Merovingian lily, quite apparently, it tells me that they had ancestry in the house of Este and Bar/Baar, for I traced the lys lily to the fish symbol used by Bar-le-Duc and the Baars of Brunswick (Rothschilds/Rothsteins were first found in Brunswick!), a branch of Estes, and then both Estes and Bars use a white-on-blue spread eagle, as do the Fauns/Phones. Interesting here, where the latter surname is being traced to "pheon," is that the Este / Bar eagle is in the colors of the Pilate pheons. If Fuggers were Fulks, this can certainly trace Fuggers to the Caesar bloodline, especially to those who honor Nero (the last Julian emperor), whom I see as the symbol behind the heraldic phoenix / eagle...used by Estes. With these things in mind, consider the "Esto" motto term of Weavers, assuming that they were a line of the Fugger weavers.
What this is telling me is that the proto-fleur-de-lys that traces to the fish symbol of CadMUS at the Illyrian coast of Bar, Butua and Kotor, traces to the proto-Fleur surname in Tuscany. It's suggestive of a Nero trace to Neretva (in the Butua / Kotor theater) because Neros are also shown as "Neretti." If we remove the vair fur from the Nero chevron, we might be left with the Child chevron...in the colors of the Lys fleur-de-lys. Reminder: the Child chevron is the Hebron chevron, and Hebrons (of CHILLingham) use a Keep motto term linking to the weaver's shuttle of the Keeps.
With this trace now of the fleur / lys line to Neros/Nerettis, the Dutch Fleur surname's red-and-white checks should trace to the Stewart-branch of Boyds. After all, the Fleur Coat under the checks shows the Pollock bugle, and moreover Boyds traced strongly to the Neuri-related Budini that recently traced to Budva/Butua. The red vair of French Fleurs, in the colors of the Dutch-Fleur checks, can now trace to the blue vair used by Nero's on a red Shield. It all makes perfect sense where the Neuri / Budini trace to the Nairi of Lake Van.
The above is telling me that the Pollock bend is in the colors specifically of the Boyds, and that Boyds and Pollocks are the same thing. As the Daorsi lived at Neretva, while mythical Nereids (depicted as a fish peoples) married Doris, what about the fact that the Doris/Orris Coat is the same wavy bend as used by "Jewish" Pollocks? Moreover, the Orrs (piles) were first found in the same place as Scottish Pollocks. The Doris'/Orris' were first found in Dauphine's Isere region, where Vienne is found that should be part of the Veneti line to Fiens/Vains/Fanes, Fauns, etc. I don't know by what coincidence it could be that the other Vienne location in France uses a wavy white-on-red pale/bar, in the colors of the wavy red-on-white fesse of Budapest.
It's very conspicuous that while Herod Archelaus was banished from Israel to Vienne of Isere, his ancestor, Herod the Great, was married to a Doris. The problem here is in tracing the Doris surname both to Doris the wife, and to mythical Doris expected at Neretva. The white Pollock bugle is used (albeit with a different string design) by the German Bars, and the Bar bugle is on a split Shield in the two colors of the Pollock Shield. Bars were first found in Lower Saxony, an apt place for the origin of the Saxon side of Fulbert the Saxon. Earlier, Fulbert's Saxon side was suggested for the Saxons out of the Kwisa river, but then Lusatia (suspect as a Lys entity that gives Walsers their Melusine) is a part of Saxony.
You've probably forgotten about the details of the Gimer surname that was found at the bottom of an Arms of Placentia. The Gimers/Kimbers (strongly traced to Pollocks of the Fleck/Flack kind) were found to use white-on-black stars, now found in the Coat of German Bars. The Bar write-up: "It is generally thought to have been a habitational name, taken on from any of various place names in southwestern Scotland, in particular in Ayrshire and Renfrewshire." The Bernys location of Renfrewshire comes to mind, a location found in the write-up of the Burns...who use a black bugle, the color of the bugle used by Fulbert-suspect Berts.
The Vienne page at Google was just loaded to get you the Arms of Vienne, and there was a map of Vienna (Austria) showing a FLORIDsdorf section of that city. It just so happens that French Fleurs are shown as "Florida." Note the gold-on-red castles in the Arms of Vienne, and then compare with the same in the Arms of Budapest! It's telling me that the proto-Boyds / Budini were in both Budapest and Vienne. It just so happens that the Nairi of Lake Van are identified by historians with the Biaini peoples, namers, it is thought, of Lake Van. Compare "Biani" to "Vienne," and then consider again a trace of 'pheon" to the Fiens/Vains/Vans et al, and the trace of the pheon symbol to the ermine owned by Vannes. (Vannes owns the ermine rodent as well as the ermine "fur"; it's the latter that's shaped like a pheon.
Here's the Bienne/Bien Coat showing, very likely, the red-and-white split Shield of Walsers! Yes, for both Biennes and Walsers use the axe. This is further evidence that the Lys bloodline of Walsers traces to the Nahorite > Nero line. In other words, expect Nero bloodliners in the Lys valley of Aosta, where the Este clan (known to be from Franks) originated, though I've traced Estes to Merovingians very confidently.
The Morbihan location at Vannes has seemed "Merovech"-suspicious. It was an old idea I took on. However, in this update, Merovech/Merovee is tracing to Sicambrian Franks at Budapest. The suspicion above had been that the Sicambrians had merged with the Attila Huns, and that there had been an alliance between Childeric and Valentinian III in order to explain the Pollock trace to Childeric's son. I can't find the historical Arms of Vannes at the moment, but in the 4th update of last May, this was written: "...the historical Arms of Vannes -- three large black ermines on a white Shield -- used by dress-like Trestans/Tressans." What an excellent piece for the discussion here, for Hebrons of Chillingham trace to "Childeric," and then the Hebron motto is "Keep TRYST"!!! It's telling us that Childeric traces to Vannes / Morbihan, super-important because a Merovech, thought to be more of a mythical code than an historical ruler, was made the father of Childeric.
In other words, there was a link between Budapest and Vannes, evoking the trace of Brittany's Alans / Pollocks to Attila's house of Dulo. In that case, the Stewart-branch Boyds are tracing to the namers of Buda(pest). That is, the Budini (from the Bug river) must have named Buda (beside Pest). "Bug" is smacking of the Boggers / Bogens.
I assumed that "Morbihan" was from a MorBIGan-like term, thus making for "MeroVECH," and it could therefore be that "Bug" carried all the way to the naming of Morbihan. In fact, we can take "Bug" to the Biggars because Biggars use the Doley/Dulles Coat while the latter trace to Doly the same Carpathian theater as Bihor/Biharia, where I trace "Biggar." The northern Bug river starts at L'viv not far off from Biharia or Budapest, and then "Bihor/Biharia"is a term like "bihan." It just so happens that Biharia is off the Mures/Maros, where I've insisted that Merovingians should trace. In this picture, MORbihan" is a Mures-Bihar combo.
There are two Bug surnames, both of which use Bogen colors. German Bugs (Hamburg) are even Buggens, and the Buge variation smacks of the Fuge variation of Folgers/Fulkers. That supports the trace of Fuggers to Bogens, though Fuggers would thereby trace to the Bug river. I traced its Nahorites to Fulk "Nerra." English Bugs (water BOUGets!) are easily traced to Shakespeares because both use the same colors, and both were first found in Nottinghamshire. The Shakespeares are the ones using the Gripp/Grabner/Graben bend, and then "The founder of the [Fugger] family was Johann Fugger, a weaver at Graben." It works. And it's telling us that Waters and Buckets trace to the Bug river, suggesting perhaps that Waters were a branch of Walters / Watts.
Moreover, as Fulks use the Shakespeare spear, it supports a trace of Fuggers to Fulkes (and therefore to Folgers/Fulkers). And, this is tracing the Bug-river bloodline to Gripel of Brittany, as expected of Nahorites. Gripel is where the Voirs/Voyers lived who use the two lions of German Walters, kin of the Walters who use the Gripp/Grabner bend. Just like that, the Welser banking kin of Fuggers are traced to Walters...who were of CROWhurst of CAMbridgeshire, perhaps an indication again that Fuggers were Bogens whom I trace to Bauers>Rothschilds, for Rothes use the crow.
The Crowhurst bend, shown in an insert way above, was found while I was writing here. It was a welcome piece of evidence for the Pollock trace to Walters / Wallace's / Walch's/Welch's, and tended to confirm the Crow surname link to Walch's/Welch's. If we remove the blue of the vair fur from the Crowhurst bend, we are left exactly with the bend that "Jewish" Pollocks were shown with until recently. If we remove the blue of the vair fur from the Nero chevron, we are left with the Crow chevron. It's telling us that Pollocks were a branch of Neros tracing to proto-Patricians of Chora on Patmos.
It's very important that Pollocks are tracing both the Nahorites and Caesar Nero, as it tends to verify that Nero was named in honor of Nahorites. The vair fur has been called a "bell pattern," which should, for the reasons under discussion, link to the Fuller-related Bellis in the Pollock bloodline. Bellis are the ones using the Carpenter symbols who trace to the Carpathians. Scottish Bellis were first found in Moray, where I expect the Merovingians.
Where the Arms of Budapest link to the Arms of Vienne in France, it's not a far distance to the Veneti founders of Vannes. It's telling me that Arthur's wife of Vannes traced to Sicambrian Franks, explaining the Camber area of Britain of which the Arthurian Brits consisted. Compare "Camber" and "Cymbri" to the Gimers/Kimbers/Kembers, and ask again why the latter surname uses a fur (ermine and vair are, I think, the only two heraldic furs). As the Gimers are in the Arms of Placentia, what about the Plescop location just outside of Vannes? Just outside of Plescop/Plescopais. is Moustoir de Fleurs and Meucon.
Entering "Muson" gets the Mustons/Moucons using the same-colored chevron as Walch's/Welch's, as well as the sword design of Shots/Shutes/Shutts. Mustons/Moucons were first found in the same place (Yorkshire) as Crowhursts/Crowderes. It looks like that Welch link to Crows once again, what was gleaned as a 666 bloodline. The Walch's are tracing to the Crowhurst location of Walters, in other words, and therefore clinching the "Walch" link to the "Wallace" = Walter bloodline. The Deres/Deers suspect in the CrowDERE variation of Crowhurts even use a red on part-white chevron (colors of the Walch chevron).
The Shots/Shutes are a 666-suspect bloodline in that they traced to modern Megiddo along with vulture-using Slings...who smack of Salines near Macon (Vienne of Isere theater). It's telling me that the Moustoir and Meucon locations at Vannes were of the Massins/Masons/Macons from the Vienne-Isere theater...wherein Pollocks of the Doris kind are suspect. I'm seeing Sadducees and Maccabees at Vannes, important because Ananias, who traces easily to both Sadducees and Maccabees proper, was traced to the Heneti > Veneti line. But then the Doris' may even have been from Herod the Great's wife. As Slaines (in the colors of the Salines fleur) were first found in Shropshire, and as they appear to use the Walter-of-Crowhurst bend in colors reversed, it traces the Pollock suspect at Salines and Macon to the Alans / Pollocks of Dol. When the Geier vulture turned up not many weeks ago, just before the Sling vulture (in Walter-of-Crowhurst colors) turned up, "vulture" was identified as code for "Walter." This paragraph treats the epitome of the 666 cult, doesn't it? It's the world's arch-enemy, yet the world will honor it because the world is going to be made to accept the lie.
Anytime we have a crow line using red-on-white, as do Walch's/Welch's, it's suspect as a Rome/Roam / August(us) line of Patricians from Patmos. I'm not convinced that Welch's were from the peoples of Wales even though it's got to be a theory for obvious reason. I'm seeing a Julian/Gillion term in "Welch." The Mustons/Moucons are traced in their write-up to "Ghent," possibly the same elements that named Gwened/Vannes and Gwynedd. There in the alternative name of Vannes you see a G-version instance of a V-term. In the same way, "Welch" can be W-version of a Gel term. It should even be true that "Wales is from "Gaul/Galli." <>P> The Deres/Deers use a chevron in the colors of the Welch/Walch chevron, but they use it on black and white bars, the colors of the bars in the German Julian/Julius Coat. The latter Coat shows crescents in colors reversed to the Durham-surname crescent, and Durhams, who bring the Deres/Deers to mind, were first found in the same place (Dumfries) as Romes/Roams. Moreover, I see Durhams from the Durance river, the location of Julius-suspect Guillestre. As I trace Julians to the Neuri-associated Gelonii, which jibes with a Dere / Durance trace to the Daorsi / Doris peoples of Neretva, by what coincidence does the Gelon/Galen Coat use "batons" while French Batons/Bastins show three roses in Chief in the colors of the Caesar/Sesare roses? Moreover, the Baton/Baston roses are on the Shield-and-Chief combination of Cutters who trace to the Cottians, where Guillestre is found.
The Batons/Bastins were first found in Poitou = Poitiers, where I trace the Butteri (same place as Neros/Nerettis) that use the colors of the Batons/Bastins (anything from Poitiers is suspect as the 666 line of Picts, not forgetting that Pollocks are tracing to the very Romans who gave birth to Pilate with a Pictish woman). It's telling me that the Butteri were at Guillestre, suggesting that Batons were the Budini kin of the Gelonii...that trace to Butua/Budva right beside Cottian-suspect Kotor (Illyrian coast). It's now fully expected that Pollocks were the line to Julian Caesars, and so what about the recent find that the "Audacter" term of Pollocks (gold saltire) was code for the Hoods and Audleys? The thin gold Audley saltire is in the colors of the thin batons in saltire of the Gelons/Galens.
It's not out of the question that Gauls/Gali were from the Gelonii, especially as Gelonii recently traced to the Illyrian coast, where it's known that Celt ancestry derived. There may have been other Galli on the Illyrian coast that the Gelonii came to live with, but the point is that Welch's/Walch's, and therefore the Wallace line to Pollocks, may have been from the Gelonii, which explains the Pollock trace to Romans with a VALENtine surname equating possibly with "Gelon." Reminder: Alans of Dol smack of "Gelonii" and had a Boyd branch that traced to the Budini, and moreover French Alans and French Julians use the same stars.
As Pollocks are suspect in the Polzl surname of Hitler's mother, and as Stewarts have traced to Nazi elements in various ways, it's of no surprise that Pollocks trace to Hoods and Audleys (both use frets). But, now, let me show again the white bend, the color of the Pollock bend, in the Heid Coat, for it has an arrow, a symbol in the Pollock Crest.
I've tended to see the Heid arrow as the Rothschild/Rothstein arrow, especially as Bauers and Hiedlers/Hitlers use the same colored stars, the colors of the Julian stars. The Rothstein surname is shown also as RodMALER, perhaps a branch of the Moles / Malls that Pollocks link to, and then the Maler/Maller/Maylor Coat shows small white Shields, the color of the Placentia square. This potential trace of Malers to Placentia jibes with the Hanan Shield used by Malls/Mallibones, for Hanans are suspect as Ananes of Placentia. The Maler/Maller Coat even uses the Shot/Shute sword while Shutts/Schuetts use a saltire in the gold color of the Pollock saltire.
The Maler write-up: "The surname Maler is an occupational name for a painter, or more specifically a painter of stained glass, derived from the Old German 'malen', and the Middle High German word 'malen' which both meant 'to paint.'" That's got to be code for the Glass = Pollock bloodline, and perhaps also for the tattoo bloodline through the Pictones of Poitiers. [We are about to discuss the Bast bloodline, leading to the Best/Biaz surname, smacking of the Baez variation of the Placentia/Piacenza-suspect Pelaiz' that use half the Pollock saltire.]
If I told you by any sort of reasoning that Valentinian's father was from Croatia, you might think it too wild, but "Gratianus originated from the town of Cibalae (Vinkovci), in southern Pannonia Secunda (modern Croatia)..." This location is near Bosnia and BISTue. Bistue is suspect as the proto-Piast bloodline that Pollocks must trace to!
Gratian was an "Illyrian family," according to Wikipedia's article on Valens, Valentinian's brother. "[Valens] had spent much of his youth on the family's estate and only joined the army in the 360s, participating with his brother in the Persian campaign of Emperor Julian." The latter, born in Byzantium, is said to be from the Constantinian dynasty, itself of the Flavian bloodline, the one that took over the Roman empire immediately after Nero.
I sure would like to know what "Flavian" (and Flavius Josephus) was named after. In the Flavian family tree, we see a Tertulla at the start of the tree, married to a Flavius with Petro surname (Butteri-like)...suspect tentatively from Patmos. There was a quasi-mythical Tertullo that was made the father of Ingelger, the known father of the Fulks ("Caesar"-like motto in the Fulkes-Nerra line)...who have been traced to Nero. "Fulk" is much like the Polk variation of Pollocks.
THEN, looking at emperor Vespasian, the one who took the Roman empire left behind by Nero's death, and who and conquered Jerusalem in fulfillment of Jesus' words against the chief priests, we find his mother, Vespasia POLLA, daughter of Vespasisu POLLIO. I think it's clear here that Pollocks were from this line, and then to boot, "vespa" in Latin/Italian is a wasp, perhaps explaining the bees in the Bessin/BEASTon Coat, and the bees in the grave of Childeric, who married Basina. In that picture, Basina's son, Clovis, was from this Pollio > Pollock line, explaining why Pollocks are traced (by others) to Clovis. If this is tracing the Basina line to Bistue, it wouldn't be surprising.
Although the Butteri seem to trace to the Salyes in various ways, I've yet to find a Butter-like term in the Saluzzo / Salys / Salassi theater. The fact that Batons also use "Bast" is reason for seeking them in such terms, and reveals that this was the Buto cult that had the Bast lion goddess. English Batons are shown largely as Bast terms, yet they use bats as indication of s-less Bat terms in their family. The Bats (saltire in Julian-saltire colors) trace solidly to the Baths/Athas and Badens/Battins of Somerset, in the CornWALL peninsula where the English Batons/Bastons were first found. French Bats were first found in the same place (Languedoc) as French Julians.
The Bats in the Cornwall peninsula were the proto-Arthurian cult of Pendragon, likely the entity that the Welsh red dragon was named after, and then the Arthurian cult traces to Ardea in the area of the Butteri Latins. It's important to call them Butteri "Latins" because Latins are trace-able via their mythical mother, Circe, to Circasia = Caucasia, where the Lazi and Bats lived. This is the root of the Biblical dragon, and the Welsh are, in all likeliness, from Gomer. I do tend to trace the Welsh red dragon to Rhodes/Rhodians, but then that was the island of Circe's brother. The red roses of the Caesars/Sesares ought to trace to Rhodians.
The Lazi had the Nergal lion as a husband, who should trace to the Bast lion that named BudaPEST, where Pollocks have traced. The French Bests (gold lions, as with the Arms of Budapest) were first found in the same place as French Julians, and English Bests/Bez'/Baiz'/Bets were first found in the same place as Caesars/Sesares. Bassets were first found in Morgannwg of south Wales, and then the Veys/Vivians that were mythical Morgan le Fay were first found in Cornwall, where Batons/Bastons resided. Morgans use another gold lion on a green Shield (as do Duffys at Perthshire), the colors of the Pollock Coat, and then the lion goddess of Egypt was, Wadjet," known as the "green one."
I theorized a while back that two upright lions facing one another were symbol of the boxing symbol given anciently to Pollux. The French Bests use two upright lions in that way. It's suggesting that the Vespasian / Pollio line of proto-Pollocks was from Pollux. The Best lions are in the colors of the upright Sforza lion, of a surname that I trace to the Spartan > SEPHARvite line, you see, and Pollux was the Spartan Apollo. Interesting here is that the wife of Valentinian I, and mother of Gratian the Elder, was Marina, also called Severa.
Bassets use the wavy Drummond bars, not frogetting that Pollocks were from the Andrew line of Hungarians that birthed the Drummonds...first found in Perthshire, where the Gratian > Valentinian line is suspect.
It has been a grate pluck from the grape vine to find Pollock roots in Valentinian because Gratian gets us back to the third century, amongst a peoples that can be traced relatively easily due to the many historical works on Roman events and characters. It may not be long before I find how the Gratian line linked to Valerius Gratus and/or Pontius Pilate. That's the theory now. We have the further clue of a Pollock trace to Flavians of the Vespasian kind. We saw that a Titus Flavius Petro was at the start of the Flavius family tree, and so we could check the Peter surnames for links to that man. BUT, some months ago, I made a solid trace of Pollocks to Peters surnames because one of the first Pollocks proper was a Peter Pollock!
There are eagles in Maxwell-eagle colors in the Put(t)er Coat, as well as in the Peterson Coat. The Puter write-up: "First found in Cornwall where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor of BASustowe." That could be a Bas-Stow combination in-part for the Stow/Stout surname. The Stout-viking raven was traced the Mieszko line out of Bistue and Bosnia, but then Greek myth portrayed a king of Kos, Eumelos, as a crow/raven. Kos was the home of bee-depicted Merops, the term that I trace to "Merovee/Merovech," which was indeed the Pollock line. Kos is near Patmos, where the Chora crow line was, and so let's not forget that while Flavius PETRO ought to have been a PATRician bloodliner tracing to Patmos, he married the wasp-suspect line of Vespasius Pollio. I'm thinking that the Vespasians should trace to Merops of Kos.
I we're wondering about the contradiction of tracing the Merovingian bees both to the Boii and to the Vespasian bloodline, let's not be too hasty, for the home of the Valentinians was in Pannonia, home also to the Boii. PLUS, the son of Merops on Kos was made PANdareus. Pan was the goat cult leading to Faunus, and Gratian was called Funarius.
Perhaps we need to seek Flavius lines under such surnames that use "Flaw / Plaw" terms. The Flowers, said to be named after the arrow, a symbol of the Pollock bloodline, use a white-on-black cinquefoil, perhaps link-able to the gold-on-black cinquefoil of English Bests. The Flower write-up: "Another occupation that could be indicated by this name is that of the fletcher, or maker of arrows. This is derived from the Old English word floer, from the Old English fla, which meant arrow." ASTONISHINGLY, the Fletcher surname (from a Hutton location) shows Fless and Fleg terms, smacking of the Bless surname (arrows, Pollock- and Nero-suspect bend) on the one hand, and the Flegs/Flecks on the other who use scallops trace-able to Scala at Patmos. The Fletchers even use white pheons inside "pellets," highly suspect as the Pilate line.
It's telling me that the Flowers, Fletchers, and Flecks/Flags are from Flavians, and that Flavians are from the 666 line of Scala > Scylla to the Meschin (and Samson) scallops, in the colors of the Fleck scallops (Samsons even use a "flag" buried in their motto).
English Peters use a "Cornish cough," a code-work name for the crow, apparently, as well as scallops and cinquefoils. German Peters, who show a Shield similar to the English Peters, were first found in the PALATinate.
The other English Peter surname uses what I think is a peacock on a mascle, and then there are mascles in the Peacock Coat. Moreover, Peacocks (a known sept of Pollocks) show a "just" motto term that can now be traced to Justina, daughter of Justin and wife of Valentinian I. It's more corroboration that Pollocks and Alans / Wallaces / Glass' trace to the Valentinian line.
Peacocks were first found in Durham, more corroboration that Pollocks trace to the Nereid-Doris line. I have little doubt that Pollocks came forth from the 1st-century Varni, the proto-Veres who worshiped Nereid-like Nerthus, suspect as a Nero line of Nahorites. I traced Nerthus to "Neretva," home of the Doarsi / Doris peoples that I trace to "Durham." Peacockincidence?
Petersons even use the same motto term (Nihil) as Veres. The swan in the Peterson Crest, and the "Nihil sine" motto phrase, suggest the Sions/Swans, not forgetting that Pollocks were the Walsers from Wallis canton, where Sion is located.
The Julian line had been traced to Varni elements, not forgetting that the Varn/Gille Coat (more scallops) is the Gripp / Walter bend that's already linked to Pollocks. It's telling me that the Flavian bloodline somehow got up to the Varni of Polabia. Let's not forget that Pollocks and Alans trace to Huns, suggesting that the Flavian bloodline in the Polabia area must have hooked up with the Huns. Recall the alliance between Valentinian and Attila.
The Peacock fesse is an engrailed fesse that could be construed as a wavy fesse; it's in the colors of the wavy Pollock bend and of the wavy bend in the Arms of Budapest (Budapest was in ancient Pannonia). The Flower / Fletcher arrow theme must trace to the Hungarian arrow, and the "major" motto term of Peters is likely code for the Majors/Magors who look like a line from "Magyar." The Magyar blood of HUNgarians is said to be from Ugors/Ugrians, smacking of a Roman priesthood.
The Peterson cross is colors reversed from the Puter cross (in the colors of the Julian saltire), and it's the latter that shows pheons inside plates. Petersons were first found in Aberdeen, home of the Leslie Hungarians. But then Aberdeen may have been the area spread into by the Picts who gave Pilate birth, perhaps explaining why Hungarians of the Leslie / Drummond came to live there, and moreover Drummonds may have settled Drymen in Perth because they knew that the parents of Pilate were from that location. The Puter cross is in the style and colors of the Bitar/Buttar cross, highly suspect as the Patrician line of the Butteri kind. The Bitar/Buttar Crest is a bow, as with the Fletcher Crest, and Fletchers use the same sort of cross, in the same colors, as Bitars/Buttars. The point is, Bitars/Buttars (Herod hearts?) were first found in Fife and Perthshire: therein in this paragraph we must have the Flavian line that gave birth to Pilate.
After writing a half dozen paragraph's below, I checked the Vink Coat as per the Vinkovci birthplace of Valentinian I, and what do you know, it uses a "sibi" motto term smacking of Vinkovci's alternative name, Cibalae. MOREOVER ZOWIE, the Wink/Wing surname was first found in Perthshire! The Wink/Wing Coat is the one with the Julian saltire (as a cross) on a Pilate-suspect pile! The Vinks are also "Vinci/Finch," suspect as the Da-Vinci cult bloodline. The Winks/Wings, who use billets, a symbol of the Supers/Soapers, are treated from the 2nd update in June through to the 4th. This paragraph may, or may not, mean that all previous traces of Winks/Wings was incorrect because the surname should definitely trace to Vinkovci. The Wink/Wing write-up traces the family to Rutland.
Aha! As Leicester-Rutland traces to Ligurians, how many Gog like terms do you see in this list of MacNeil septs? None. What does the motto read? It reads, "VINCere VEL mori," the same motto used by the MacNeills (with two l's). How many Gog-like terms do you see in the list of MacNeill septs? Almost all of them (are the Neils trying to hide their Gogi roots by not including those septs under the regular Neil spelling?). And many variations reflect mythical Cycnus/Cygnus, the Ligurian swan king. It's possibly that the Guiggins variation morphed to "Wiggins" and then experienced a consonant reversal to Wing/Wink-terms, explaining the Vincere motto term. I trace the "nihil" motto term of Veres to the Nihill variation of the Neil Coat page, and then the Wigg-like Wicks/Weekes use "nihilo" and an ermined Shield in the colors of the Winger ermines. I have no idea at the moment why "Neil" should trace to the Ligurian swan, or to Vinkovci, but Ligurians have been tracing to the Sava river for a long time, and can therefore be expected in Vinkovci, about 15 miles from the Sava.
[Is that a Phrygian cap in the Vick Crest? We're about to see another possible Phrygian cap in the Volk surname as the Vinkovci area's Volcos river is traced to the Volcae. Note that Volks and Wicks both use axes.]
"Fletcher" smacks of "Flaad," a name used by the Dol Alans. The Flower > Fletcher line ought to link to the Plow/Plough surname, first found in Shropshire and using the same stag exactly as the English Stewart stag. The "alteri" motto term (like "Walter") of Plows must be code for the Altens, who use Robin HOOD and his bow and arrow. The Alten fesse is in the colors of the Peacock fesse, and moreover Altens were first found in the same place (Nottinghamshire) as Shakespeares who use the Gripp / Walter bend. But then the Bugs were also first found in Nottinghamshire, and they were traced to bow-using Bogens. The Latter were suspect with Boggers, Fuggers and Folgers/Fulkers, and the Tertullo-line of Fulks is now tracing to Tertulla, wife of Flavius Petro. Isn't that a little too coincidental since Plows were being suggested as a "Flav" variation even before I got down to the Alten trace to Bogens???
The Alten fesse is in the colors of the Budapest fesse, important for the trace of the Alten arrow to the ten Hungarian tribes (that were depicted with ten arrows).
If I'm not mistaken, the two-tipped spear (tip at each end in case it disappears) of the Shakespeares and Fulkes is shown in the Walton Crest, suggesting that Altens and Waltons are one family. The "Murus aeneus" motto phrase of Waltons suggests Aeneus, mythical founder of Rome, whose line merged with Mars. Aeneas must have been the same as mythical Aeneus, symbol of Aenus at the mouth of the MARitsa river.
It can't be coincidental that the large Weldons cinquefoil is colors reversed to the large Bus cinquefoil, for the Weldons have this write-up: "conjecturally descended from Robert de Bucy, a Norman Baron who acquired Weldon, an ancient Roman villa..." I interpret the Bus surname strongly as a Nahorite line of the Buz kind. As the ermined Bus cinquefoils is the Leicester cinquefoil, chances are that Weldons / Walters were in Leicester, important because the Legro river of that place traces to Ligurians, who lived in the Lys-valley theater where Walsers are known to have lived in. Thus is explained the swans of the Waltons, probably linking to the swans and "sine" term of Petersons.
The German Bus Coat (Baden, Budini suspect) shows the German Baez eagle, and then in the Crest we see the black wing used by Dutch Vlacks/Flacks...Pollock suspects even before finding that Flecks/Flacks were a Flavian line of the Flower > Fletcher kind. What's interesting here, where Buz, son of Nahor, is tracing to Flavians, is that Flavians took Rome over after the death of Nero, whom I trace to Nahorites of the Neuri kind.
The importance of the Wings/Winks of Rutland is that this location is a part of Leicester. As Winks/Wings almost-certainly trace to Vinkovci (Winkowitz to the Germans), it tends to trace Bus' and Weldons, etc., to the home / birthplace of Valentinian I. It helps to trace WEL(don) / WAL(ter) terms to VALentinian. That Vinkovci location was home to two Roman emperors by the name of Gratian, and then the Grates happen to use a fesse in colors reversed from the Walton-suspect Altens, and moreover the surname is also shown as, Rie. It evokes the Rye surname that is accessed from the Saddock "ears of rye," because the Arms of Vinkovci uses "corn ears" (both the Saddocks and Ryes were first found in Sussex).
Unfortunately, I can't discover whether the Danish Rye Coat uses a stork, but as it looks like one, what about the storks in the Arms of Vinkovci?
By what coincidence is the Rye Coat an ermined bend in the colors of the Pollock bend, and in the colors of the ermined Bus / Leicester cinquefoil? The Rye fesse is that also of the Rutland-suspect Rod(h)ams (whom easily link to Bat lines). I trace Rutland to the Rutili Latins of the Ardea / Butteri theater, which explains the Arthurian link to Bat lines.
Suddenly, the trace of Coverts/Cofferts to Croatians / Serbs is finding significance at Vinkovci. Yes, for Caiaphas-suspect Coverts were not only first found in the same place as Sadducee-suspect Saddocks/Sedgwicks and Ryes, but they use a fesse in colors reversed to the Grates/Ries. And like Saddocks, Coverts use footless martlets. Footless martins, and yet another ermined white bend, belongs to WINGers (Durham).
The corn symbol of Vinkovci may be either borrowed from a family important to the location, or may more-simply be a symbol of a corn-like entity. It recalls the "cobs of corn" used by Milians/Milliers, and then it just so happens that the martlet style of the Saddocks and Wingers is used by Covert-suspect Cobbs. The Cobb martlets were traced recently to the Rutherfords of Roxburghshire, and while Ruthers/Ruths use ermines on the style of the Rodham bend, it tends to trace Rutherfords to the ermined bend of Ryes. What's important here is that Maxwells and Rockefellers had traced to Rijeka (not far from Vinkovci) long after I traced the Rice's/Rhys' to Rockefellers of martlet-using Rochdale. It suggests that "Rice," and therefore the Ries / Ryes et-all, trace to "Rijeka/Rika." The Maxwells of Rijeka were suspect with the MaxiMILIAN bloodline of Austrians, at Pottendorf.
In the Crest of the Rochdale Arms (scroll down the page) is a miller's symbol, suggesting the Milians/Millier bloodline. The Rochdale motto includes "Crede," a term like the Craith/Crete surname that includes "Rie." If we enter "Crede," we get gold leopard heads (a Covert symbol) on a chevron in the colors of the Welsh Rice/Rhys chevron. Credes/Creeds were first found in CORNwall, thought to be named in part after Wales.
It can't be coincidental that Crichtons/Cretons use a "grace" motto term. It means that these surnames do trace to Gratian. The Crichtons/Cretons use the blue lion of Bute, and then the Cretiens show blue lions too.
Pollocks had traced to the Hungarian Ross/Ruse surname using a hand-and-wreath (officially called a "garland"), the same symbol as the Fulbert-suspect Berts. I now find the same hand-and-wreath in the Scottish Craith/Rie Crest while entering "Wreath" gets the Grate/Rie Coat above. Entering "Garland" gets a clan first found in Perthshire! It shows the green wreath used by Ross', Berts and Grates. It's got to be the Roman wreath. The Gar/Geary surname is said to use a "green wreath," and then the Saddock-like Shots/Shutes/Shutts use a "guerre" motto term. It's evoking the Geier and Sling vultures that are code for Walters. The vultures that I see at Armageddon are tracing to Valentinian.
The Rockefeller, who don't mind swallowing the entire world's wealth into their own stomachs, are working into the Valentinian picture big-time now. Rockefellers like everything big and showy, and so God has prepared Showy Time, what he calls the Appointed Time of Visitation. Rockefellers will have front row seats at that Show, and all their ill will be exposed. And from their bones their survivors will cry out for the loss of their material gains. My suspicions are that Rockefellers were the Sadducees.
Do the French Alans who use the Julian stars use ducklings? So do German Valens/Veldens/Valances. English Valances/Valens/VALANTs use the footless martins once again, eight of them, the number used by Rochdale and Saddocks. In this Roman-Caesar picture, eight could be code for Octavians. Grates/Ries just happen to use the same fesse as Augusts and Romes/Roams.
The Valance/Valant Shield uses horizontal blue and white bars, shown also in the Arms of Vukovar-Srijem, the county where Vinkovci is found. On the Arms' blue bars there is a stag in a resting position on the ground, like the Maxwell and Islip stags. Then, there is a stag in the WINKler Crest, and the Coat shows five footless martins on the same type cross, in colors reversed, as the Islip-related House's. Like the Islip-related Hazels, Winklers were first found in Cheshire. Irish Grattens use "An eagle's leg on a HUMAN heart," important because Humes/Homes use a lion in the colors of the House's, meaning that Grattens and Winklers are related, as expected if we trace them both to Vinkovci.
Ask why there are five martins in the Winkler Coat and the answer will illuminate you. But only of I give you the answer. The gold Gratten lion looks like the Sforza lion that holds a quince; the quince is supposedly a flower and yet it looks like a heart, symbol of the Gratten Crest. To prove that the Gratten lion is the Sforza lion, the German Winkler lion is showing identical (now anyway), colors included, to the Sforza lion. It's screaming at us, telling that the QUINCE's/Quincys, who are traced to the idea of "five," were a branch of WINKs from Vinkovci. And that traces Sforza's to that place, thus supporting the suggestion earlier, that "Sforza" traces to "SEVERa," mother of Gratian the Elder, father of Valentinian.
It's as though all of Masonry is tracing like a whirlwind to Vinkovci. Irish Grattens even use "Pro patria," expected of Patrician lines. The Patrician Romans had counterparts in the "plebeians," and these may have named Flavians.
Vukovar is said to be named after the Vuko river, itself after "wolf." The river was anciently, Volcos. As the quasi-mythical Tertullo ancestry of Fulks may trace to Tertulla, mother of the Flavians, it may mean that Fulks trace to this river, and therefore to Vinkovci. Reminder: Sparrows (use the Caesar/Sesare roses) were identified as a branch of Szaparys/Szafarys and Sforzas, and then Sparrows were first found in the same place (Norfolk) as Fulkes/Folks said to be from Fulk Nerra. It seemed to me that the woman in the Szapary Arms was Ishtar, and here we now find that Vukovar is at the converging of the Volcos with the Danube = Ister river. Moreover, there is a Velch location north of Rome not far from the Lucca location that Neros were first found in.
Julius Caesar wrote about the metal-smith Volcae of the Pannonia theater, and traced them to the Volcae of Languedoc, where French Julians were first found. Hmm, what's with that? "Caesar related a tradition associating the Celtic tribe of the Volcae to the vast Hercynian forest...yet, Volcae of his time were settled in Moravia, east of the Boii." The Boii are suspect in my mind, even before I get to investigating it, in the make-up of the Gratian bloodline. We can even hold out that the Volcae in Moravia had everything to do with the proto-Merovingians: the Sicambrian Franks...from the Heneti > Veneti line.
The Volcae article (below) shows them also in the Halys theater, where metal-smith Galli had lived, and my suspicions have been that the Halybes were a wolf-line peoples. Helios, the symbol of the Halys, was identified (by me) as a Gorgon peoples from Verkana, through the Gileki to Colchis/Georgia. This was in my mind the proto-Latins that Julians should have come from centuries before Julius Caesar. Perhaps Julius knew this.
Perhaps he knew that Roman-wolf origins were from the Volcae. Yes, the Roman wolf was Apollo and Leto, but "Pollux," son of Leda the SPARtan, smacks of "Volcae." And Lithuanians had a goddess, Lada, wife of Perkunas. The Hercynian forest was reportedly settled centuries before Caesar by Gauls under Segovesus. In the Hercynian-forest article: "In fact 'Hercynian' has a Proto-Celtic derivation, from perkunia, later erkunia. Julius Pokorny lists Hercynian as being derived from perkwu- 'oak' (compare quercus)." It brings the Joktanites to mind, whom I trace both to the oak and to Occitania, where the French-branch Volcae lived. However, I trace Perkunas (the Lithuanian god) to "Verkana/Hyrcania," otherwise know as Wolf Land way over at the Caspian sea. It seems that the Volcae were carriers of the Verkana name.
I'm suspicious here because I trace both the Gorgons of Verkana and Julians to the Gileki. Reminder: I see Joktanites as SEPHARvites...possible nature of Severa, mother of Flavians. Entering Volk gets the Fulkes/Folks using a Caesar-like motto. Did Julius Caesar have relations with a woman of the Volcae?
German Volks show a man wearing what looks like a Phrygian cap. As Vinkovci was also called, Cibalae, might the Phrygian great-mother goddess, Cybele/Kybele, apply? After all, the river flowing by Vinkovci empties into the Ister. The Volk description makes no mention of the cap, but does say the "man" is "emerging from a wall." Shouldn't that be code for the Wall bloodline? The axe in the man's hand evokes the Essenes because the Humes and Houses have been traced to Essenes while Humes and Houses just traced to surnames from Vinkovci, home of the Volcae, apparently, if they named the Volcos river.
The Wall Crest shows a wolf, making the Walls suspect from Valentinian. I wasn't going to mention that "Flavius" could trace to "Glaucus" because I figured you'd view that as a stretch. But now that the wolf-using Walls were first found in Gloucestershire, I'll have to give you the reasoning. 'F' probably doesn't come before the 'G' without reason. A G-term morphs in some cases into a V-term, and any letter 'v' can become an 'f.' An F-version "Glaucus" becomes FLAU-like.
Dutch Walls use the Roque rock, which traces Walls to Languedoc, where Volcae lived. Weren't Roquefeuils just traced to Vinkovci? And by the way, the Volcae article says that some of the Volcae joined Ligurians, and the Salassi Ligures lived in the theater of the Walsers.
AHA! Irish Walls/Wails/Wooles use "Aut Caesar aut nihil." AND, they show a gold lion in the style of the Sforza / Winkler lion, but rather on regular blue, they use "royal blue." Plus, they show the cross style of English Julians.
The Dutch Vals/Falls use just a bend, no symbols, in colors reversed from the Pollock bend, no symbols there either. It seems that the Wallace surname to which "Pollock" traces was in this Val/Fall line. The Wol variation of Vals/Falls prompted a look at the Wools, who use wool packs as do the Cheshire Wooleys/Wolfleys. The Arms of Rochdale show both a wool pack and a fleece. Can we see how Valentinian elements of the Wol kind from the Volcae can use both the wolf and wool theme. Next, "Woolworth" (garbs = Cheshire symbol) came to mind, and there I saw another white-bend-on-red (colors of the Pollock and Val/Fall bend), only this time it had the look of the English-Stewart bend.
So the English Stewart Coat was re-loaded to make the comparison, and by some miracle, the shape of this bend that has been showing for years was changed in the last couple of days, along with the lion style in the Coat; the bend is now EXACTLY like the Woolworth bend!!! (By the time you read this, I don't know what the English Stewarts will then show.) There you see a stag in the Stewart Crest, a symbol in the Arms of Vukovar county. Scottish Stewarts use a "VULnere" motto term that was half-suspect for Nero lines. After all, Veres are Stewarts and Fulks together. The Fulk line also uses the stag, as for example the one in the Plantagenet Crest.
One could get the impression now that "Pollock" traces to "Volcae / Volcos," out of which came the Valentine name. These were the Colchians, were they not? Gog of Lake Sevan, the swan line to Pollux. The Soducena location at Lake Sevan then look like they furnished the Saddocks/Sedgwicks that just traced to the Valentinian line. In this picture, Helen, sister of Pollux, was the Alan peoples to the Dol Alans, which implies that the Neuri, Budini and/or Geloni were part of the Volcae, and indeed, the Neuri were wolf respecters/worshipers for a reason. The pelican used by Stewarts may even have it's oldest meaning in "Peleg," who may have named Pollux. As oak-suspect Joktan was Peleg's brother, what about those oak leaves in the Alan Coat? As JOKTAN named OCCITANia, whose red fesse do the Alans use with their oak leaves? The Augusts use a red fesse, and Augustus was an OCTavian. Is that an oak tree behind the stag in the Arms of Vukovar?
In the Vukovar county is Ilok, and it just so happens that the Arms of Ilok are two lions facing one another, the suspected symbol of Pollux's boxing symbol. The two lions are even in the colors of the Sepharvite-suspect Sforzas just traced to Vinkovci. Earlier in this update, before getting to the boxing theme here, the two Best/Bez lions were mentioned as a possible boxing-Pollux theme, and they happen to be in the same colors too. The Best/Bez star has, for years, been traced to Mieszko, and then afterward I found the proto-Mieszko line in the Bosnia theater, where Vinkovci is located too. Pollux...Poles(ki)...I think I get it.
Vinkovci/Cibalae is about 15 miles north-east of the mouth of the Bosna river at the Sava, and then while the Saiers/Sauers are said to be from that river, Vinkovci is in the SYRmia area of Croatia. Add to this an old trace of Saer de Quincy (found in the Quincy write-up) to the Saier/Sauer bloodline, for "Quince" can now trace to "Vink." English Stewarts are now showing the same style lion in the same colors as the Saer/Saire/Sauer lion.
I don't think it's coincidental that the Volcae were known also as TectoSAGES while Sauers trace to Sawyers and Seagars of Norfolk. "Sage" gets the German Sagers/Saegers using ostrich feathers. English Sages were first found in Devon, where English Stewarts were first found who are now using the Saire/Sauer lion. How about that.
I'm having trouble at the Wikipedia article understanding whether Syrmus was a real or mythical founder of Syrmia, but in any case he was preceded by a king Hales. The Arms of Syrmia appears to show a pine tree (or even a Phrygian-cap tree) behind a stag, which jibes with the trace of the Venus stag to the Heneti on the west side of the Halys river. As Kybele's husband/son, Attis, was given the pine symbol, it seems all the more likely that Cibalae was named after that harlot. As Dionysus was a leopard-depicted dog of the Cybele cult, what about the leopard (lying down, like the Syrmia, Vukovar, and Maxwell stags) in the Sayres/Sarah Crest? Is that the Gripp / Walter bend in the Sayer/Sarah Coat?
The Hales and Syrmus were kings of the Treballi, and while the Tribles, first found in Devon, show no Coat, the Treebys, first found in Devon, do show a Coat. It's suggesting the Trabzon > Traby line in Vinkovci. It's suggesting the Genetes location of the Heneti at the Trabzon theater. The PlantaGENETs use a stag in the same position as the Venus/Venes stag. It always boils down to this deplorable nation, the founders of wicked and insane Kabala. Isn't Venus the theme behind VALENTINE's Day? The Roman Cupid was the Greek Eros, son of Venus.
There's a castle between the two Ilok lions. If the lions depict Pollux, isn't the castle symbol for Castor? As I trace Castor to "Chester / Cheshire" (there's more involved than the simpleton similarity of terms), could it explain the Wooleys/Wolfleys of Cheshire? I trace "Devon" to "Diva," the earlier name of Chester, and I see Trabys merged with the proto-Meschin Mieszkos. And I trace the Dumnonii founders of Devon to LaceDAEMONians, otherwise known as Spartans. Saer de Quincy was a ruler of WinCHESTER.
Here on this map of the most-ancient Vinkovci theater (click to expand), there is a Mako location, perhaps the proto-Maxwells and proto-Macclesfields of Cheshire. Why is there a VukeDOL location next to Vinkovci? There is a Glavica term on the map, smacking of Glaucus. If this was the Galli line, it should explain why the first Sauer was a Galleri: "Dieteri Galleri was the first to take on this name, and according to chronicles, appeared under the name Caspar Sauer as early as 1313."
German Caspers use a crane, which as of the last update indicates Ukrainian Rus. Polish Caspars (a compass) were first found in Polesie, where Traby-related Radziwills lived. Trabys/Sandowskis were first found in the Ukraine, and Polesie was settled by Ukrainians. The Traby/Sadowski 'Q' may therefore be code for Quincys because they trace to Vinkovci, and are suspect as part of the Syrmia region founded by the Treballi. Might these peoples have been called "Treveri" in the Rhine area? Quincys use mascles in the colors of the mascles of Pollock-related Peacock, and if they connect, it's yet another reason to trace Quincys to Trabys.
It's notable that while Caspars use a compass, Sages/Saegers are said to be from sawyers = wood cutters. Mythical Perdix was the founder of the compass and the saw. Amazingly, in the next section that starts on a whole new topic, I come across a Save river in France, in the very area where Tectosages/Volcae lived (it just seemed so Providential), and learn that the Herod-Tetrarch bloodline was on the Garonne river, and that this Herod line traces to MacArthers using the same moline cross as Seagars. Don't miss this; it can't be coincidental.
I've Found the MacHerods
Below this point on this page are some topics trailing behind from readers that will get cut and pasted into the next update until I can get to them. After ending the topic above, there was the Tancred-of-Galilee topic first on the list, but when getting to the second topic, that of Herod Antipas the tetrarch, the one who had Jesus dressed with his purple robe at his last night, it was of greater interest. Here's all I had on the topic:
According to ancient Jewish historian Flavius Josephus (books Antiquities and Wars, combined information), Lugdunum Covenarum - then in the Roman province of Spain - was the place of exile of Herod Antipas, who had been the Tetrarch (ruler) of Galilee in the time of Jesus Christ. Herod and his wife Herodias were sent there under the orders of the Emperor Caligula in around AD37, and they remained there until their death about two years later. Confusion of this place with present day Lyon, then also called Lugdunum, is still frequent nowadays, though the Hispanic reference makes this geographically impossible.
I don't recall how I got that piece, whether someone had sent it in. I wondered how that info had escaped me until now. All I knew previously was that this Herod had been banished to Spain. here I now find that Lugdunum Covenarum is in southern France around Toulouse. As soon as I saw this, I recalled an old blue and white Arms in that area that was like the Campbell Coat. symbol. You've just got to understand the importance of this, for Campbells and Herods/Hurls were both first found in Argyllshire. That's just for starters. It was telling me that Herod Antipas' bloodline was the MacArthur bloodline in Campbell ancestry. I kid you not, this is true for the following reasons too.
Here's the article of Lugdunum Covenarum, later known as Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges. By the way, the Comminges term smacks of the Komnenos bloodline to which a porphyry researcher traced the disease. The disease was named after "purple," and it's a heated controversy as to where the "royal disease" traces. It's though that "blue blood" applies. It just so happens that the Komnenos were Byzantines, and that I traced the disease to Varangians of Kiev, who had alliance with Byzantines. It was the Rangabe Byzantines in particular that I see allied to Varangians, whom I traced to the Anjou area, to the Veres and Fulks. It was roughly at that time that I found myself on the ANGOUleme location not far from Anjou and Lusignan, the latter being the home of mythical Melusine whom I suspected to be from historical Melissena Rangabe. As you can see, the Arms of Angouleme are in the white-on-blue colors of the Rangabe cross.
I was poking around Angouleme at the time, trying to find the Inger-and-Melusine family in that area, but after jotting a few things down, I gave up the search (it can be found in this chapter in case you're interested further). But it was at roughly that time that the Campbell design was found near Angouleme, and it too was white and blue. Therefore, when I saw that Herod Antipas was from the Aquitaine theater, I went searching for the white-on-blue Campbell Coat. I couldn't recall the name of the location, but when reading that Lugdunum Covenarum is in the department of Haute-Garonne, I recalled that the location I was looking for was off the Garonne river.
I'm telling you the events as they happened so that you can sense the way that I felt at the time. Before finding the mystery location, I looked up the Garonne surname, but found one only be entering "Garon," and what do you know, a gold heart appeared in the Coat. It's the symbol of Herod in my opinion, and then there is a heart used in Lanarkshire, next to Argyllshire.
To show how soft in the brain I was at that time, near midnight last night, it didn't dawn on me until a few minutes ago as I write, that the Campbell symbol, called "gyronny," is for the Garonne location. I mean, there I was last night wondering how I might convince readers that the Campbells traced to the white and blue gyronny in Aquitaine, so as to prove that the MacArthurs were from Herods of Lugdunum Covenarum, and there in the very name of the Campbell symbol the proof lay without my being aware. It's a very compelling thing you are now reading. On top of this, I had noted that the name of the other banished Herod, called ARCHELaus, the one banished to Vienne Isere, looked like "ARGYLL." Could it be that both banished Herods had bloodlines in Argyllshire's MacArthurs-Campbells???
What started to floor me last night was that the topic above, leading to the Fulk-suspect Volcae in the Sava theater, was showing itself in the Covenarum theater. It needs to be repeated here that the Save Coat is in white-on-blue, Rangabe colors, and that I traced the House of Este in the Sava theater to Rangabes because, for one, Estes use a white-on-blue eagle. But proto-Estes had been Franks so that a Merovingian alliance with Rangabes is to be expected, explaining, for example, the white-on-blue Moray stars...used by the Douglas' who also show the Lanark heart.
Here's the Arms of the Counts of Angouleme, clearly a Shield filled with Hohen/Cohen / Vair checks, and I do trace the birth of the latter surnames/families to Melissena Rangabe. She traces to Renfrew (beside Lanark / Argyllshire), and Pollocks there have now traced solidly to Veres, Fulks, and the Volcae. Of note here is that both Campbells and Pollocks use the gold boar. Moreover, Herods/Hurls are in the colors of the Pollock saltire. The hawk's lure used by Herods/Hurls is used in purple by the Cheshire surname.
As I read last night, this caught me eye: "In 72 B.C. the Roman General Pompey, while on the way back to Rome after a military campaign in Spain founded a Roman colony there. The goal was to defend the passage to the Aran Valley and the Iberian peninsula. The colony was named Lugdunum Covenarum..." It just so happens that I trace Newmans (a Rangabe-suspect Raines / Wren branch according to heraldry symbols) to the island of Arran, where MacAbees lived, an island in the Argyll theater. It should prove true that the Aran valley and the island of Arran, which JJ Tolkien called "Numenor," were related entities. The location in the Garon/Garreau/Garrot write-up may apply: "First found in Languedoc where they had been anciently seated in the seigneurie of d'Arreau..."
As that Arrow-like location is in Hautes-Pyrenees, smack beside Haute-Garonne, it verifies that the Geron/Garreau surname was from "Garonne," and we should therefore expect links to Herods all the more. It can even be seen that the Garreau variation of the surname must be for "Arreau."
I trace Arthurians to the Arrow/Arras surname, said to be from Arras in Artois, but I can't yet give an opinion on whether that surname traces to "Arreau." If it does, I would suggest that Atrebates, whom founded Arras as Atrecht, were in Arreau. I trace Atrebates to the Atreus > Menelaus bloodline of Spartans, and then Spain was filled with Sephardic "Jews." I trace Sephardics to Joktan's Sepharvites > Spartans, and Joktan's Occitania became "Aquitaine."
On Hautes-Pyrenees: "Historically the area broadly covered by the departement was known as Bigorre..." It's suggesting that the Flemish Biggars of Scotland, whom lived with/beside the Flemish Douglas, were related to Bigorres. It should be said here that Khazars, who lived at the Mures flowing past Bihor/Biharia, had two kinds of kings, one being the kagan, and the other called, big. It just so happens that Biggars/Giverns were first found in Lanarkshire! They use a bend in the colors of the Leslie bend, which I trace to the Save bend.
Going back to last night, I clicked the Garonne link upon seeing it in the Haute-Garonne article, hoping to find the location using the Campbell symbol. I read there that "The Garonne's headwaters are to be found in the Aran Valley in the Pyrenees...The Garonne follows the Aran Valley northwards into France, flowing via Toulouse and Agen towards Bordeaux, where it meets the Gironde estuary...Other tributaries [of the Garonne] include the Save and the Gers." It just hit me in the face after just being on the Sava topic, but the Gironde river took priority here because I then recalled that the Campbell symbol was used by Gironde. In this picture, the Campbell gyronny symbol traces both the "Garonne" and "Gironde" in the region of Aquitaine. Both the region of Aquitaine and Gironde use what should be the Normandy leopard, testifying to what should be the Vere / Varangian bloodline in historical Aquitaine and Gascony.
I can't tell from Wikipedia's article of Comminges when it had gotten that name, but from another article: "The earliest Bishop of Comminges we know of is Suavis, who assisted at the Council of Agde in 506..." Sava-incidence? The place is now called after "St. Bertrand of Comminges (1073-1123), grandson of Raymond Taillefer..." There are three Taillefer Coats. In the French TaileFERRE Coat, there is an "iron bar," suggesting that Tails had merged with the Ferrari > Vere line, which jibes with the Thule / Dulo trace to the Varni theater. In the write-up of French Taillefers: "...William Fulco and Robert Tailefer were recorded in Normandy in 1180, and carried on their respective lineage."
The Arms of Hautes-Garonne use a patee cross, and so it should be mentioned here that the Basques, founders of Gascony and Biscay, call themselves "Euskals," a term that should trace to the Scala / Scylla line. In other words, the dragon bloodline out of Patmos. To this I should add that the Sages, who are now tracing to the Volcae TectoSAGES, use the same chevron as the Crows. Reminder: Crows / ravens trace from Chora of Patmos to Varangian Rus vikings that conquered into Bute, smack beside Arran.
It just so happens that the Crow Crest is a camel...which can now be gleaned as symbol for the Cammell variation of Campbells. But Crows were "First found in Norfolk and Suffolk...", and while Norfolk is where the Volcae-suspect Fulkes were first found, CAMULOdunum is near the Suffolk border. The roosters in the Crow Coat likely signify the Sinclair viking Rus who founded Normandy.
I have not had the MacArthur surname mentioned much, to the point that I didn't know last night what the MacArthur symbols are off-heart. I had just finished speaking on the Seagar / Saegar trace to Tectosages when I loaded the MacArthur Coat for clues that they should trace to Gironde. And there I found that the MacArthur moline cross was identical to the moline cross now showing in the Seagar/Sugar/Sakar Coat. Like Crows and Fulkes, Seagars (and Sawyers) were first found in Norfolk. The Moline/Moulin surname, using a moline cross, was first found in the same place (Devon) as Sages.
Both the MacArthur and Seagar crosses are in the colors of the Rangabe cross, and as you can see, the Rangabes use the moline cross but with an extra finger to denote the fleur-de-lys. This is all the more reason to suspect that Rangabes were Herods, and it's verifying that Rangabes were at the Sava...if indeed Seagars and Sawyers trace to the Sava.
In the last few months, its been mentioned a few times that the sharp-pointed crown was a symbol of Arthurs, though I had forgotten where the idea had come from. I now re-find that crown in the MacArthur Coat just before finding it in the Irish Crow/MacEnroe Coat loaded moments ago. It's telling me that the white-on-red chevron of Irish Arthurs is that of the Crows in particular. The number '5' is apparent in the Arthur "rest" symbols, and then the MacArthur crown has five points.
The Arthur Crest is said to be a falcon, and then French Falcons use Rangabe colors, and were first found in the same place (Languedoc) as the Garons/Garreaus. In fact, English Falcons/Faucons even use the same colors chevron as the Garons/Garreau.
If we ask why Varangian / Sinclair vikings should be heavily involved in Aquitaine, it's because they tried to conquer the world between 850 and 1100, the period culminating in their Jerusalem invasion. What bloodline do we think it may have been that prompted the take-over of Jerusalem? Amongst the options, the Herods are coming to mind. I trace both Rus and "Herod " to Redones of France. I once read that Redones were "Araeda," and therefore linked them to Haeredaland in Norway. I had no idea then that Haeredaland may have been named after Herods.
I had traced the red and gold checks use by Angouleme to the same used by the Vaux (= a Wells branch), and later found that the same checks were used in the Arms of Meulan. It just so happens that Meulan was ruled by the Beaumonts directly from Humphrey Vieilles of HARcourt (Danes). It begs the question of whether Harcourts were Herods of the Rangabe kind from Anjouleme, not very far at all from Gironde. Harcourts (peacock) even use "viendra" in their motto, suspect with Vienne Isere.
What does it mean when we think of Herods trying to conquer the world? Herods, despised by the peoples, wanting to "show the peoples" by obtaining power over them until...mwah-ha-haah, evil laughter. Cecil Rhodes the ambitious zealot. Wasn't he a Herod? It's a good bet.
As the purple disease is now under consideration at the Comminges term used for Lugdunum Covenarum, there is the question of why the Wrens/Raines use purple lions. It's only a small clue, but it's beginning to tell me that the porphyry in Renfrew links to the purple-robed Herods at Covenarum, especially as Herods/Hurls (using a version of the purple hawk's lure of Cheshires) are in the colors of Pollocks, first found in Renfrewshire.
We just saw that the Falcon surname linked to the Garonne / Arreau theater and to the Geron/Garreau surname of Languedoc, but the Languedoc and English Falcons combined use the symbols of Languedoc's Contes/Comites', whom were not only Sinclairs (as per the latter's "committ" motto term), but became the Contevilles as per HERLuin de Conteville. Whether or not we have clinched a Herod link to Herods/Hurls / Herls (gold fesse like the Herods/Hurls), in the least we can thereby trace Herluin de Conteville to the very area that Herod Antipas was banished to. That's no small-potatoes, but more like a hot potato to the Masons. Let's burn them, shall we?
We need to ask why Herluin married Herleva, the mother of the Sinclair Conqueror. Might we suppose that "Herluin," also "Herlwin / Herlevin," was a "Herod-Lewin" combination while "Herleva" was a Herod-Levi combination? After all, the Herod/Hurl hawk's lure is part code for the Lures, a sept of McLeods in Skye and LEWIS. It just so happens that while the Hawks/Hauks use PURPLE "pilgrim's staves" (the stave is used by the Pilgrim surname) of a surname first found in Lincolnshire, where Rhodians / Herodians are expected, the Stave chevron (Rangabe colors) is in the colors of the Lure chevron.
The trace to Herods of the Herluin kind to Languedoc's Contes is compelling for a trace to Herod Antipas. It dawns on me here that the crossed spears (Rangabe colors) of the Italian Pace/Pase/Pascel surname, which look to me like the same-colored, downward pheons of the Pilates, belong to Herod AntiPAS. For the English Pace surname uses besants (Byzantine symbol) on a PURPLE shield!!!
"The Pace family lived in Cheshire. The name, however, is a reference to Pacy Sur Eure, in Evreux, Normandy, the family's place of residence prior to the Norman Conquest of England in 1066." If correct that Herods were in this Pacy location, how many other Pac/Pas-terms apply to his bloodlines? The Pass/Pascal/PasCOLL Coat uses Levi/Levin lions, and was first found in Essex, where COLchester/Camulodunum was located that traces to Herod-related Campbells/Cammells.
Staves are properly Stevensons/Stephensons...and use the hand-and-green-garland symbol seen earlier in this update, where it traced in particular to Pollocks lines of the Hungarian and Gratian kind. The "Coelum non solum" motto phrase of the Staves is one I trace to the Gores / Coles, who both traced to tributaries of the Sava, and then the Gore/Core crusader crosslets are used by purple-lion Wrens. Gores were first found in Essex, the location of Camulodunum/Colchester. I wonder whether old king Cole wore a purple robe.
As the "servire" motto term of Gores/Cores, and similar motto term of Coles, traces to Servitium on the Sava near where the Urbanus flows into it, we can now trace Gores/Cores to the Mieszkos (who themselves trace to locations on/off the Urbanus). I'm seeing this better now due to the Gore/Core link to Staves, who use the Moray star colors that I see in the Mieszko line. Staves use a blue-on-white chevron, what should be the Macey chevron in colors reversed, and moreover, as the Hawk/Hauk staves are purple, the blue of the Staves suggests "blue blood." One way to trace Staves/Stephensons to Rangabes is a trace to HohenSTAUFens. Staufers even use a cup in Rangabe colors.
The Gores/Cores may have to do with "HarCOURT," a possible Herod-Gore combination. After all, Gores were in relation with Coles / Colchester / Camulodunum. King Cole did not only rule Colchester, but York, which uses a besant symbol suspect as the Byzantine coin. It's telling me that Purple-Room Byzantines were in Yorkshire with Herod elements from Colchester, and then Yorkshire is where we find more purple lions, that of Lacys and Skiptons. The Lacy lions should even trace to Spain's Luz/Lucio surname (Aragon).
As the purple links hard to Herods, the purple disease could therefore link to MacCarthers. If that's true, then the Rangabes might have picked the disease up when they were yet proto-Rangabes of the Covenarum location, if you catch the drift. I'm suggesting that proto-Rangabes were the Herods of that place, and that it was re-named Comminges so as to provide for the Komnenos line of Byzantines. The same person who wrote me several times on her trace of the purple disease to the Komnenos also traced the disease to Spanish royals (if I recall correctly, she traced to Toledo and Castille elements).
The theory here goes like this. Nicholas de Vere claims for his bloodline the mythical Melusine at Anjou, suggesting that Inger the Varangian was a Vere line of the Anjou theater. Inger marries Melissena Rangabe of the Byzantine imperials because her line traces to the Anjou theater too, or more in particular to the Herods of Gascony / Aquitaine. Nicholas has Melusine in Avalon before her son (Milo de Ver) becomes the count of Anjou in times prior to the Fulk counts of Anjou, But he doesn't tell us that Avalon is Bute. Avalon was the island of king Arthur, and Buteshire is now part of neighboring Argyllshire, home of MacArthers. These Bute Arthurians were Herods, thus suggesting that Melissena Rangabe's line on Avalon, and at Anjou, was the Herod > Rangabe line.
I'm willing to drop the proto-Rangabe trace to Herods of Languedoc, but for the meantime, I'll keep it in mind. It may be that Rangabes, having nothing to do with France initially, merely merged with Herod lines there.
Emailer Pollock has been all the reason in the world for my emphasis on Pollocks through the years, which surname is now proving huge for tracing the dragon to certain Romans of the Flavian / Valentinian kind. She has a very serious type of porphyry that she traces to her Pollock bloodline (not her surname), though at least one of her other bloodlines is porphyry-suspect too. Her first husband was of the Melusine bloodline, and her second husband (after the death of the first) traces dead-center to the ostrich line...to which I trace Pollocks. I therefore feel that she's another key part of God's revelation to us.
Melusine-related Speers were first found in Renfrewshire, and they too use the gold boar, as do Campbells and Pollocks, suggesting that Speers were a part of the Herod > Campbell line. As Wrens use a broken spear (spear design of Dunhams), there is a question of whether the spear is merely symbol for the Speers, or for the so-called "spear of destiny" thrust into Jesus and desired by world-controlling fools. That spear is like a lightning rod in the hands of the fool in the storm of Armageddon.
Let's go back to the idea that Herluin/Herlwin/Herlevin was named after Lewins and Levins, not forgetting that his Ville ancestry has already been pegged as a 666 bloodline, as has the Scylla line to "Euskal," and that the AntiPAS-suspect Pass'/Pascals use the Levi/Levin lion which in the Kilpatrick Crest rides the back of a green dragon, with its "dexter paw (= right hand) resting on the dragon's head." A green dragon is used by the Lewis surname, and both Lures and Herods, as well as many Hurl-like terms, are shown as septs of McLeods, who lived in the Lewis area not far from the Herods/Hurls of Argyllshire. Note that the Abees = MacAbees are first on the McLeod list. There are also Euskal-like surnames fronted with A / C / G / K, for example the Askils. The Spanish Esque/EsquiBELLE surname (Castille, Euskal theater)) is trace-able to the vair fur = BELL pattern of Haskels, suggesting that the McLeod septs by similar names do trace to Euskals.
The Arms of Angouleme use a white-on-blue castle, the main symbol of McLeods.
Lewins were first found in Shropshire, and French Levins (PURPLE grapes) were first found in Brittany, suggesting that Stewarts are once again in the pack of sinister topics ("Jewish" Levins are also the Levi). Did you notice the ducklings, a symbol of French Alans, in the Herl/Hurl Coat? Compare with the Sheldon Shield (the three ducks in the latter's Coat have been changed recently; they used to show in either the design of the Alan or Devon ducklings; it seems that many of the recent heraldic changes in design pertain to Stewarts. I wonder who's changing things, and why, since about three months ago).
While English Stewarts were first found in Devon, the "sheldrake" ducks of the Devon surname are not identical in design to the "red ducks" of the Alans. The Alan ducks are identical in design (at least they are now) to the "shovelers" of Herls/Hurls, and there is a Shoveler surname using what looks like the Dutch Bone Coat. It's important for the Bone link to same-colored Skulls, suspect as a line to Euskals...who named Gascony, the place to which the duck-using Gascons/Gasts should trace. The Gascon/Gast duck is just called a duck, even though it's in the design of the Devon and Sheldon sheldrakes.
The EUSKAL-suspect SHELdons (i.e. probably a branch of SKELtons) are apparently at the root of the "sheldrake" term, but Drakes are suspect too, especially because their write-up cleverly traces the surname to "duck." I didn't know that satan was a duck, but on second thought, he's the fool (it's not my idea but his own) like a sitting duck with a spear-shaped lightning rod in his hands. Nicholas de Vere is the "king" of Drakenberg, and then while the red-on-white wyvern dragon of Drakes was used by the dukes of Masovia, where WARsaw is the capital that uses a warrior-like Melusine in its Arms, by what coincidence were Sheldons first found in WARwickshire?
Let's go to the Arms of Hautes-Pyrenees, two red lions/leopards in the positions of the two Gernon leopards, but in colors reversed (I call them leopards here because Normandy called its lions such). Doesn't this tend to trace Ranulph de Gernon to "Garonne / Gironde"? The write-up: "First found in Montfiquet, in the district of Bayeux. Robert de Guernon accompanied the William the Conqueror at Hastings in 1066 A.D. Robert held estates in Herefordshire, Suffolk, and a great barony in Essex." HEREford? Isn't "GARonne" suspect as a HERod term? The Irish Hares/Garrys use a fox, a symbol that may have applied to Herods if only because Jesus called Herod Antipas a fox. And then Suffolk and Essex brings us right back to the Herod trace to Camulodunum?
In this picture, Ranulph le Meschin's son (i.e. de Gernon) was named after a Herod line. But why? Aside from the Maccabees to which I trace Meschins and their bee-depicted Bessin location, I suppose that Herods from southern France got down to Normandy when they were chased out of their Pyrenees mountains by war, and met the viking Rus there. Better yet, the viking Rus in the shape of Varangians were there in Herodville-Gironde before Rollo conquered Normandy, and they ended up in Normandy together, explaining why Rollo wanted Normandy as his own. We wonder how many Herods went to Brittany instead.
Earlier, the Wicks and Vicks were traced to Wing/Wink elements of Vinkovci, and so compare these terms to "Fiquet," I've tended to trace "Wick / Vick" to "viking," and to the Vexin location in Normandy that I think named the vikings. The Vexin is close to Evreux, the place that I say received the two leopards of Normandy from the two lions of the Abreus. We saw that Pacy Sur Eure is in Evreux, and that the Paces from that place, who are suspect from AntiPAS, use a purple Shield with besants. Meschins were first found in the Bessin, and moreover the Montfiquet surname (first found in Essex) shows as "Muschat."
Montfiquet was also "Montfichet," and then, like Gernons, Fichets were first found in Suffolk. But Fichets use the colors of the Herods/Hurls! Both Gernons and Fichets use the gold leopards of Normandy.
"Vexin" and "Fiquet" smack also of a fox. Just saying. By what coincidence do the Crests of Gernons and fox-associated Faucets both use the upright black lion? Faucets were even at MUSSELburgh. Sear de Quincy, who has been traced to "VINKovci" already, is in the Faucet write-up. We saw an old Mako location in the Vinkovci theater, and so consider the Mathie/Maken Coat (very Maccabee-suspect) with a "fac et" motto phrase. Hold on to your windmills, because the Mathie/Maken Coat uses the gyronny symbol! And there in the Mathie/Maken Crest you see the five-pointed crown of the MacArthurs!!!
I did not know that this crown was that of MacArthurs when I linked these Mathies (also "Maghan") to the Irish Mathunas/Maghans/Manns (Levi lions in red) while claiming that the latter were the proto-Arthurs in Ireland. Good one, John. Much safer, it was suggested that proto-Arthurs of Ireland had to trace also to MacCarthys.
As Vinkovci was traced to swan Ligurians in the same discussion that features the Wicks and Wicks, the Swani name in the Faucet write-up should be mentioned too. ZOWIE! The Swany/Sweeney Coat is a fesse in colors reversed to the Herod/Hurl fesse! It's clinched: Faucets were Herods of the Fichet kind. The Swany/Sweeny lizard design is even identical to the one in the Hare/Garry Coat.
The above recalls my linking of the Sweeneys to Neils by way of the grail symbol of Lowrys/Glorys / Lawries, and though I cannot recall how that link was made, it must be added that, earlier above, when the list of MacNeil septs was shown, there were quite a few Grail-and-similar surnames. Lawries use their grail on a Shield split into the colors of the Mathie/Maken gyronny. The Lowry/Glory write-up traces to Neils (and Savages), but it's the Sweeny link to Neils that I've lost memory of. The Gog / Cycnus-like variations in the list of MacNeill septs (two l's) were traced earlier in this update to swan Ligurians, underlining the importance of that Sweeny link to Neils, especially as Ligurians had merged with Rhodians. That is, I've expected Herods of Languedoc to merge with Salyes / swan Ligures, and here in this update I'm learning that the Volcae of Languedoc had merged with Ligurians:
In Roman times, the Volcae Arecomici occupied the district between the Garonne River (Garumna), the Cevennes (Cebenna mons), and the Rhone River, corresponding roughly to the Roman province of Gallia Narbonensis. In Gaul they were divided into two tribes in widely separated regions, the Arecomici on the east, living among the Ligures, and the Tectosages (whose territory included that of the Tolosates) on the west, living among the Aquitanians; the territories were separated by the Herault River (Arauris) or a line between the Herault River and the Orbe River (Orbis).
Herault??? The term gets the Herods/Hurls. The Raults/Rolts use what look like a version of the Marley dolphins on a Sales bend. This has the potential to trace Herods of the Vienne-Isere theater to Morlaix of Brittany, and begs the question of whether those Herods had linked to Salyes / Salassi. It's fully expected. Marley-colored Morleys use fleur in Sale-fleur colors, as well as three gold leopard heads like the Herod-suspect Fichets.
Why are Neils linking to Herods? What were Neils / Nails nailed after? There are nails in a heart in the Irish Lohan/Logan/Duck Coat, verifying that Neils and Nagles/Nails/Neils link to Herods. I trace Logans to mythical LOHANgrin, the swan knight, because Logens/Lokens and Locks use swans. Thus, it clinches the trace of Neils to swan-line Ligurians. It's in the Neils and kin that we're going to find Herod lines.
The Swany/Sweeney write-up: "They later became attached to the MacCarthys in the south and acquired their own territories and castles in Muskerry in County Cork." The MacCarthys are also MacARTHys. More Herods and Mussels down that way, in Muskerry, you see. The Swany/Sweeney Crest arm-and-axe is virtually identical in design to that of the Wing(er)-suspect Weeks.
While writing above, the idea dawned that "Isere" may have named the Sears/Seers (Essex, Colchester!) and Sarahs/Sayres (Essex again) of Saire, Normandy. Aha! The Sarahs/Sayres use the Gripp bend, smacking of Herod Agrippa. The Seres/Saires were even first found in Languedoc. All three Coats are in Edomic / Rus red. The Sears/Seers write-up: "First found in Essex where they held a family seat as Lords of the Manor of Colchester from very ancient times, some say from the reign of King Edmund Ironside in 1016, but this date conflicts with the more likely source of Serez, in the arrondissement of Evreux in Normandy, supporting the contention that the family were granted these lands after the Norman Conquest of England in 1066."
The Herods must have liked Evreux, home of the Eburovices Hebrews. Herods of Evreux may even have been the money bags and political strings behind the Rus formation of Normandy in league with the French king of Rollo's time.
The Isner/Asner surname is interesting because it uses the blue wings in Crest of the Here and Hertzog Crests. As the Isner/Asner Coat shows a bend in the colors of the Saves, it may even trace "Isere" to the Saires/Sauers said to be named after the Sau/Sava/Save river, in which case the truth may be that the Sava was named after an Isere > Saire > Sauer line, not vice versa. I did trace "Sava" to "Savona," the Ligurian capital and swan entity. The Savona/Sabine Coat uses a large red-on-white scallop, the color of the Sears/Seers scallop.
Superficially, a trace of Isere elements to surnames does not necessarily indicate Herod lines, and yet looking deeper into these clues, I do tend to see Herods. After all, there is another Save river in the area to which Herod Antipas was banished. The two Herods must have sought one another out, and perhaps invited other relatives from Israel to be with them; they may have joined in common locations, seeking first to be stewards of rulers, but with eyes for the throne with stewards under them. The Merovingians? Basina, wife of Childeric? Did you note that both Sears/Seers and Seres/Saires use Seres/Saires use a white-on-red chevron, the colors of the Chill/Child chevron?
Albeit the French Savonas are shown properly as Savards, they happen to use besants, and were first found in Poitiers, where I expect the Butteri who use the same bend as Saves. The Savards use their chevron and symbol in the colors of the chevron and heart of Languedoc's Gerons/Garreau'. It's a little interesting that these colors are seen in the Geier Coat, of the surname expected at the founding of Nesher in Israel's Armageddon theater. Nesher was founded (last century) largely by a Pollack surname. The founding of Nesher by Geiers / Pollacks had to do with a cement factory, and Herods of Israel did like to build stone monuments and palaces. One might even venture to trace "Masonry" to cement workers of old that had been Herod bloodliners.
It could be added that the Geier vulture can link to Sarahs/Sayres because Walters are suspect at "vulture," while Walters and Sarahs/Sayres use the same-colored bend. The Sadducee-suspect Shots/Shutes use a vulture in those black-on-gold colors.
The Isere river traverses Savoy, called also Sapaud, terms that may relate to the Savona/Sabine surname. The sources of the Isere are in Aosta, where the Salassi lived, but also where the Walter-related Walsers lived who trace to Switzerland's Sion, just outside of northern Aosta. Probably less than 10 miles from Sion is a Sierre location smacking of terms just traced to "Isere."
Interesting here is that the Jerusalem-suggesting Jura mountains are not far to Sion's north, and of course Sion itself is suggestive of Jerusalem too. Isere then smacks of "Israel." Moreover, in Savoy there is a Modane location that I trace to Modiin of Israel (origin of Mattathias Maccabees that I trace to the Mathie/Maken surname using the Herod-suspect gyronny symbol). At the mouth area of the Isere are the locations of Valence and Romans, indicating possible Herod links to the Valentinian > Pollock line, which may help to explain why Herods came to live in the Renfrew theater. Valence was Valentia Julia in Roman times, later held by Alan Huns, explaining its Allan location. But then there is an Allan river in Scotland's Stirling area that mythical ground for Herod-suspect Arthurians.
Hmm, the German Valence/Falen Coat (WestPHALIA) uses three red ducks, the symbol of French Alans...who I say use the Julian stars! It's tracing the Julian line to the Valentia Julia, and giving up a new idea: Alans of Dol were in the Allan location of the Valence arrondissement. Emailer Pollock must have been correct when she saw the strings of the Pollock bugle looking like a bee in flight.
The Valence write-up: "It became a colony under Augustus, and was an important town of Viennensis Prima under Valentinian I. It was the seat of a bishopric perhaps as early as the 4th century." There you go. It should explain why Scottish Valence's were first found in the same place as Caesars/Sesares.
I had forgotten about Buthier in Aosta. It's a Butteri-like term that has been discussed, but I forgot about it (details 2nd update, July, 2011). Aosta is not a high population center, and I have been seeking the Butteri in a more-populated part of Piedmont. Populated or not, the region would have been ancestrally-important to Masonic masters if Herods were here. There's a Sarre location in Aosta Valley that uses a red-on-gold lion, the colors of the Ley/Legh lion, and may even link to the red lion of the Saires/Sauers.
We read: "...in the Lys Valley there is a Walser German speaking minority." The Lys becomes the Dora Baltea (also called, Bautica) flowing down to the Po, passing about 50 miles from Novara. "Balt" and "Walt" are synonymous terms. Clicking to the Walser German article, we find an important piece of data that should involve Herods of the Arthurian surname:
The Walser language (German: Walserdeutsch), also known as Walliser German (locally Wallisertiitsch), is a group of Highest Alemannic dialects spoken in Walser settlements in parts of Switzerland, Italy, Liechtenstein, and Austria and in the German-speaking part of the Canton of Wallis (French: Valais), in the uppermost Rhone valley [let's assume the Herods were named after this river when it was called, Rhodanus].
...The German-speaking immigration to the Wallis started in the 8th century from the canton of Bern.
If it's correct to trace Bern to Bernicians, then what about the fact that the Arthur surname was first found in Berwickshire? Both Berne and Berwickshire use bears, and the Irish Mathunas/Maghans/Manns that I see as a branch of Mathies/Makens are said to derive in an Irish word for "bear," though that may not be altogether true. There is a difference in originating in a term, and evolving into a term. The Lys river is very close to Novara, where the Laevi lived, and Mathunas use three red Levi lions (though I don't know that Levi own the lion). The flag of the Aosta Valley is a Shield split into red and black, colors of the Mathies/Makens. Just a guess for now.
I also trace the Bryneich country of Bernicians to "Brunswick," where there ruled the Bar part of the house of Este. Good reasons developed for why the Estes should trace to the namers of Asti and Aosta, which led to the conclusion that the Bars of Brunswick and Bar-le-Duc were there, suspect as the bear lines out of Berne. There was even found a Bernard area in Aosta. The Irish Bernard Coat (Este / Rangabe scallop colors) uses the Save-style snake in green, held by the same lion as Sforza's use, and a bend in colors reversed from the Save bend. Irish Pattersons use scallops in the colors of the Bernard scallops.
I trace the Bath/Atha and Baden/Battin surnames of Somerset to Arthurians, and then Berne was founded by Zahringers of Baden, Germany. The Baths/Athas use a white-on-red cross of the type and colors that's very popular in the Swiss / Savoy theater. Badens/Battins use three axes in the design of the three used by Wicks who use a "nihilo" motto term tracing to Neils who in tern trace to Ligurians. That's said because there is a Niel location in the Gaby area of Aosta. It doesn't look like much, but other Neil centers can be expected in the area. The Nagles/Nails/Neils were found consistently close to the Veres, and then there's a Ferrat valley in Aosta. Neils even use estoiles, and a red-on-white fleur-de-lys, colors reversed to the Lys / Massey fleur. Neils even use a white-on-blue fish, the one I trace to the proto-fleur de lys, and to the Bars of Este.
The Herod-related Campbells use "Ne obliviscaris" for a motto, and Baldwins use "Je n'oublierai pas," both of which appear to honor Nobels. But the "pas" term of Baldwins is now, as of late in this update, suspect as an AntiPAS code. Aosta and Savoy became important in the Templar era, when Baldwins became the first kings of Jerusalem.
I had forgotten that, in the 2nd update of July, 2001, I traced the Baltea/BAUTica river to Godfrey de Bouillon, who was slated to be the first king of Templar Jerusalem ahead of the Baldwins, until he died suddenly. The evidence for that important trace in that update, aside from the Bald(win) trace to "Baltea," included the French Baut surname, first found in the same place (Auvergne) as the Bouillon surname. Then, the German Baut/BAULT surname uses "bello" in the motto, as does the Bouillon motto. There is much of your Templar mystery solved, at least the origins of the first Templar kings. Note that Este / Rangabe colors are in both Baut Coats, and that the Bouillon Coat uses the Rangabe cross (in different colors) with fleur-de-lys tips.
How did I forget such a thing? By the constant work I do day after day, I suppose. One thing leads to another, and things in the past soon get swept under the carpet of memory loss. Or perhaps, I was to forget by design until coming back now with Herods in the picture.
The Italian Bernard surname was first found in Bologna/Bononia, and the Bouillons were out of Boulogne in the Herod-suspect Artois theater.
The French Bernard Coat evokes the Burn link made earlier in this update to Berts, for the Bert chevron and green wreath is in that Bernard Coat. It's telling me that the namers of Bernys in Renfrew, and Fulbert the Saxon, were out of the Bernard area of Aosta. Reminder: Pollocks were traced to Trabys who were in-turn traced to the bugle of Orange-Nassau near the Savoy area, at the time that "Orange" became suspect as a Rangabe term. Bars (in Pollock / Herod/Hurl colors), Burns and Berts all use black bugles, the color of the Traby bugle. The Burn Coat uses fleur on a chevron in the colors of Rangabes / Estes and the Bernard scallops. The whole world of Masonry is tracing to Aosta. Can it fit in that little place?
The Berts were first found in Devon, and so they use a version of the Exeter Coat. The Walch's/Welch's/WELTS do likewise, not only because the Pollock-Wallace bloodline traces to Walch's, but because Pollock-related Stewarts of Shropshire were first found in Devon. The "mortuus" motto term of Walch's gets a fourth Coat in this paragraph to use black symbols around a red-on-white chevron: the Morton Coat. The "TransFIXED" motto term of Walch's may be code for Fichets. Murtons/Mertons (Rangabe colors) were first found in Devon too.
Where do all the surnames in the paragraph above trace? To Aosta's Walsers, for Walch's/Welts use a swan and the colors of the Walsers, Wallis canton, and Sion. This is telling us why Godfrey de Bouillon was the elder of a Sion organization of Rosy Crossers. Templars are all about the Melusine-using Walsers coming down from Berne into Sion, and into Aosta, home of the Melusine-using Massins/Masons. The Walser goat even looks like the Moreton goat, and Moretons are suspect with the Moor theme of Bouillons. Where else do we find the Herod heart? Right in the middle of the Sion/Swan/Swayne Coat. Reminder: Swanys/Sweenys use colors reversed to the Herod/Hurl Coat, as well as the black Sullivan boar.
Where did Morgan le Fay of Herod's Bute trace? To Morges in Vaud off the north side of Wallis canton.
The Sion/Swan Coat is the most horrible one of all. It hot only boasts the Herod heart, but the Seleucid-Gogi swans, the Maccabee gloves, the Thule talbot, the Levi lion, and the Meshech chevron in the colors of Gog. This is the stupid ringing Hell's bell proudly.
I suppose the next question is: who were the Walsers out of Berne in the 8th century? This pre-dates Inger the Varangian and Melissena Rangabe by at least a generation. It also pre-dates Zahringers of Berne. As I trace Melusine to Cohens / Hohens proper, perhaps their non-Byzantine side applies. That side is suspect as the Varangians, and therefore as the ancestors of Inger. Zahringers are said to be related to Hohenstaufens, and indeed they with Hohens shared the same red eagles. Why red, and why eagles?
Hohenstaufens use the lion colors of the O'Rourks, and then a Varangian by the name of Rurik (of Kiev and Wieringen) lived in the same part of the 9th century as Inger. Rurik had a brother, Harald, and by this time, Herods may have developed that name, since after all the Herod/Hurl surname is shown properly as, Harold. It's hard to conceive of king Herod on a viking ship, but with no throne, what were the sons of Herod Antipas to do, actually work for a living?
Rurik in Wieringen (location smacks of the Veringens, kin of the Zahringers founders of Berne) was involved in the Netherlands and Frisia, which should explain why the Hohenstaufen and O'Rourk lion colors came to be used by Flanders. The first kings of Jerusalem were from Flanders. The lion colors above are the colors of the Walter and Agrippa-suspect Gripp bends, but the ShakeSPEAREs use the same bend, and I think this is important, for I trace the red Veringen antler to the Arms of Spree-Neisse, and then both Sprees and Speers use red. Moreover, the Spree river is in Lusatia/LUZIKA, what I see as the mythical mother of mythical Melusine of LUSIGnan. In other words, if Berne of the 8th century was inhabited by peoples from the Spree river, it could explain why Walsers out of Berne use (a two-tailed) Melusine.
"The two Norsemen [brothers] used islands as a main base of operations, the seat of Rorik being the island of Wieringen, while Harald operated from the island of Walcheren, and they also ruled Dorestad at this time." WALCHeren??? Hmm, in a recent update, the Welt variation of Welch's was traced to the Veleti Polabians who lived in the area of the Varni that I see as proto-Varangians. Suddenly, the Walch's are tracing to WALCHERen, especially as WALKERs (the surname) traced well to the Wagrians who lived on the Warnow river named after the Varni. At that time (4th and 5th updates of June), the Wagrians seemed to be the heart of the dragon cult, and of Thule-Society roots.
Hohenzollerns use "Nihil" in their motto, and their Zollern side has been traced to Salyes. The black and white quarters of Zollerns and Hohenzollerns may trace to the black and white checks used by the House of Ascania, the house that provided Albert the Bear. But Albert and his house were well after the 8th century. Still, as Walsers ended up in the Salassi territory (the Salassi founded the city of Aosta), where Neils are now tracing, there is good reason to believe that the Zollern side of the Melusine-related Hohens were in bear-depicted Berne prior to it's official founding by Zahringers (12th century, if I recall correctly). Hohens were in Swabia, around the Lech river to which I trace Salyes / Salassi, and so if they were there before the 8th century, they could have been the Walser Germans of the Berne area. Berne is between the Lech river and Aosta. The Sales use the fleur, a Welser symbol, in the colors of the Zollerns. Dutch Welsers are in the same colors; they use the same white moline cross that Seagars/Sugars showed until recently, and the Seagar cross has been linked to the Rangabe cross, expected where Hohenzollerns and Welsers were one.
Reminder: the checkerboard may have been a banker's tool for counting coins, making Hohens and Cohens suspect as bankers. It's already known that Welsers were big-time bankers. Templar pirates, they say, became international bankers. Didn't I just trace Walsers to the epitome of Templars? What's that you say? Hohenzollerns use the colors of the pirate skull-and-bones flag? I see. They counted stolen coins. One way or another, they loathed making an honest living. So they collected interest in the worst of situations, until they learned to bridle the business world, to make it gallop their way.
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